View source for Talk:TCPA/TCG - Trusted or Treacherous


== Discussion about the article "Trusted or Treacherous" ==

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--[[User:Pitsche|Pitsche]] 11:38, 4 Jul 2005 (CEST)

== Plagiarism? ==

Large parts of this article apparently consist of unattributed, near-verbatim excerpts from a SANE2004 paper by Weis, Lucks, and Bogk, [http://www.cryptolabs.org/CCC2004TCunendlich/WeisLucksBogkSane2004tcg12.pdf TCG 1.2 - fair play with the 'Fritz' chip?]. Regardless of whether one believes that general political/ethical concerns about Trusted Computing belong on a Thinkpad-specific site, wholesale copying of unidentified, and presumably copyrighted, material is not cool, and could get the whole project in trouble.

I would suggest that the non-original parts of this article be removed and replaced by an external link to the above-mentioned paper; any particularly crucial short excerpts (as permitted by "fair use") should be clearly identified as such. The specific information about how the TCG specifications are implemented on various Thinkpad models can stay, of course.

== The Source is under Creative Commons, isn't it? ==

Hello Andrzej,

yes, you are right, this text on a website of the presentation of the annual chaos computer club is one of my sources, but I think, it is under creative commons license by-nc-sa 2.0 de. And are the presentations of the chaos computer congress not also free unless the speakers don't want it??????

This license allows to copy, distribute, display, perform or modify the text as long as it is published under exactly the same creative commons license and licensees may not use the work for commercial purposes - unless they get the licensor's permission.

My problem was, I had a lot more sources in a different language than english and my first drafts were way to long!

It didn't worked to keep it that short but detailed, as Ruediger and Adreas wrote it.

But if you think, after my explanation the actual version is still problematic, I will delete it of course!

--[[User:Pitsche|Pitsche]] 21:12, 4 Jul 2005 (CEST)

== Thanks for your work, i like it ==

Hello Wyrfel,

thank you very much for editing and restructering of that article.

I think, I know know what you and Andrzej want and I will try in he next days, to change the article in that way, okay?

P.S.: I don't know, why I loose my logged-in status from time to time, perhaps my connection. I am sorry, that there are IP-Adresses instead of my unsername "pitsche", I hope, no one gets confused, which edit is be me and which one by someone else :-o

Sorry.

--[[User:Pitsche|Pitsche]] 21:15, 4 Jul 2005 (CEST)