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== Feedback ==
Great, great work! Really! This completely rocks. I just stopped my battery from charging at 77% and restarted charging a bit later, no problems whatsoever. BTW, this is on kernel
--[[User:Spiney|spiney]] 21:25, 5 Dec 2005 (CET)
None of the fuctions is working on my T40, kernel 2.6.14-mm2.
--[[User:Lammic|lammic]], 2005.12.05
Works for me on a T41 running 2.6.12-10-686 (Ubuntu 5.10).
--[[User:berndtnm|berndtnm]], 2005.12.06
Including stop_charge_thresh? That one seems to be missing on the T42p.
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 00:46, 7 Dec 2005 (CET)
tp_smapi works just fine on an R52 with Ubuntu Breezy stock kernel.
--[[User:Micampe|Micampe]] 12:52, 7 Dec 2005 (CET)
''To set the thresholds for starting and stopping battery charging (in percent of current capacity):''
'''current''' really? That'd be weird, I'd expect it to be percent of '''total''' capacity.
--[[User:Micampe|Micampe]] 14:39, 7 Dec 2005 (CET)
"Current full charge capacity", as opposed to "current remaining capacity" or "designed full charge capacity"...
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 15:05, 7 Dec 2005 (CET)
Battery features don't work with my T41p. I can't check this with windows. Can anybody try these features?
-- Nils, 7 Dec 2005
Nils, does cdrom_speed work for you on the T41p? Could you provide the details requested in the README (dmesg etc.)?
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 21:57, 7 Dec 2005 (CET)
CDRom Speed seems to work. (I see no warnings, but I have to do a speed test.) Now, I've send all outputs to the email-address in the readme.
-- Nils, 8 Dec 2005
All the features except the stop_charge_thresh seem to work here on a t42p.
One note, the start_charge_thresh seems to really be stop_charge_thresh. Ie, If I set that to lower than my current battery %, it will never charge,
and if I set it to 100 the battery charges all the way.
--[[User:Nirik|Nirik]] 16 Dec 2005
Nirik, "all the features" as of which version? For example, do the force_discharge{1,2} in tp_smapi 0.12 also work for you? See the table in the article page. About start_charge, that's odd. Can you send me a log of what you did, what was the result a what was the dmesg output for each operation?
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 14:16, 16 Dec 2005 (CET)
System T40p:
fairlight:/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0# echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/force_discharge1
fairlight:/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0# echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/force_discharge2
fairlight:/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0# dmesg 
tp_smapi: req_in: BX=2118 CX=100 DI=0 SI=0
tp_smapi: req_out: AX=8680 BX=2118 CX=100 DX=b2 DI=0 SI=0 ret=-38
tp_smapi: SMAPI error: Function is not supported by SMAPI BIOS (func=2118)
tp_smapi: cannot get force_discharge1 of battery 0: Function is not supported by SMAPI BIOS
tp_smapi: req_in: BX=2104 CX=100 DI=0 SI=0
tp_smapi: req_out: AX=80 BX=2103 CX=100 DX=78 DI=0 SI=0 ret=0
tp_smapi: cannot get force_discharge2 of battery 0: bx=2103
So it seems force_discharge1 is not supported at all. But force_discharge2? By the way, i think wiki is a _very_ good idea for collecting information, but not for discussion. I would prefer a maillinglist. We can use sourceforge.
force_discharge2 is indicating a real error condition (bx=2103 which has bit 0x02 on), but I have no idea what the error is or how to fix it. Sorry. If you can trigger this function under Windows and have SoftICE or equivalent, maybe it can be worked out.
About the Wiki discussion, I'm not sure a mailing list is justified yet, but you can use the linux-thinkpad list or the e-mail address in the README.
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 21:42, 16 Dec 2005 (CET)
OK, then i use linux-thinkpad to get more people involved. I'am away the next weeks, but i hope to find some time to hacking on tp_smapi.
Someone reported cd_speed works on T42 but on mine, it doesn't: this is 2378DXU
--[[User:eBug]] 22:55, 17 Dec 2005 (CET)
eBug, how does it fail? If the file doesn't exist, it means you didn't enable PROVIDE_CD_SPEED (see the README). If it does exist, can you provide the dmesg output when you read an write to the file?
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 11:53, 18 Dec 2005 (CET)
To confirm:
tp_smapi 0.13 works with hdaps module loaded on T41 (2373-8RG). However, force_discharge*, inhibit_charge_minutes, start_charge_thresh, stop_charge_thresh don't seem to be implemented on this model.
--[[User:LJSBRokken|LJSBrokken]] 21 Dec 2005
tp_smapi version 0.13 with T23 (2647-3QG) (I have dual batteries)...
None of the functions which make any changes work...
<pre># cd /sys/devices/platform/smapi && cat BAT*/* > /dev/null
cat: BAT0/force_discharge1: Function not implemented
cat: BAT0/force_discharge2: Input/output error
cat: BAT0/inhibit_charge_minutes: Function not implemented
cat: BAT0/start_charge_thresh: Function not implemented
cat: BAT0/stop_charge_thresh: Function not implemented
cat: BAT1/force_discharge1: Function not implemented
cat: BAT1/force_discharge2: Input/output error
cat: BAT1/inhibit_charge_minutes: Function not implemented
cat: BAT1/start_charge_thresh: Function not implemented
cat: BAT1/stop_charge_thresh: Function not implemented</pre>
However, all the battery status information is available, and functions appear for both BAT0 and BAT1, regardless of when the UltraBay battery was inserted or ejected- this is very useful, it is the only way I can monitor my UltraBay battery unless it was present on boot.
--[[User:SystemParadox|SystemParadox]] 21:51, 4 Jan 2006 (CET)
==Changing the CD speed when the CD is being accessed will hang your computer==
I don't have this problem on my T40p. CDROM is mounted and file on CD is opened. Change speed do '''not''' hang my system.
-- Stefan Schmidt
An open file looks fine if you're not reading/writing at that point. But my T43 does hangs on this:
# dd if=/dev/scd0 of=/dev/null &
# echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/smapi/cdrom_speed
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 16:41, 7 Dec 2005 (CET)
OK, sorry. I was to fast. My system hangs on this commands, too. :(
-- Stefan Schmidt
Works well. Great.
T42 2373-8zh. Working :cdrom_speed and start_charge_thresh. Untest : inhibit_charge_minutes.
-- Haifeng Chen
cdrom_speed works on my T40.
-- [[User:Lammic|lammic]], 2005.12.09
== "thinkpad" module kernel compatibility ==
Ajunge, how do you compile the "thinkpad" module compile on kernel >=2.6.9? The latest thinkpad version (5.8) still uses "get_cpu_ptr" and "set_cpu_ptr", which were removed in 2.6.9.
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 13:53, 10 Dec 2005 (CET)
The Debian thinkpad-source package in unstable (version 5.8-4) works just fine; I'm compiling it with 2.6.14 without any problems.  And get_cpu_ptr is present; it's defined in include/linux/percpu.h.
--[[User:TedTso|TedTso]] 18:56, 17 Dec 2005 (EDT)
Stock thinkpad_5.8.tar.gz doesn't #include percpu.h anyway, and doesn't compile on vanilla or 2.6.15-rc5. Maybe Debian patched it? In that case the article page should ref the patch.
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 11:50, 18 Dec 2005 (CET)
Oops, my mistake.  I forgot that I had patched my copy of thinkpadpm.c.  I replaced the use of get_cpu_ptr and set_cpu_ptr with get_cpu_val() and set_cpu_val().  I just double checked, and it tpctl is working for me on 2.6.15-rc5.
--[[User:TedTso|TedTso]] 14:45, 19 Dec 2005 (EDT)
Care to send a patch? It would be useful on the article page, and maybe we can get it into upstream.
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 23:11, 19 Dec 2005 (CET)
== Kernel Patch? ==
Hello Thinker,
would it be possible to provide the SMAPI support as kernel patch as well? Something along the lines of: (0.12 against 2.6.15-rc5)
''(deleted, see below for how to create a patch file)''
Deleted the tp_smapi.c file at the end, out of obvious reasons, and I'm not sure about the placement in the ACPI section, OTOH there it would be found easily next to ibm_acpi.
Providing a patch would help when recompiling the kernel often, I hate recompiling external modules every time (even got me a kernel-upgrade script to do most of it automatically). But of course it's up to you. :)
--[[User:Spiney|spiney]] 09:52, 16 Dec 2005 (CET)
I'll be glad to add this, but I don't want to go through additional manual steps in the release process (there are already quite a few). Can you add a "make patch" functionality to the Makefile, or something of the sort, to automatically generate a full patch (including tp_smapi.c) against current kernel sources?
Also, this shouldn't be under drivers/acpi, since it doesn't use ACPI at all (that's why I didn't make it a patch to ibm_acpi). I think the right place is drivers/firmware, like the dell_rbu driver for Dell laptops.
BTW, the convention for kernel patches is to start them once level higher:
  diff -Nurp kernel-2.6.14-vanilla kernel-2.6.14-patched
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 17:12, 16 Dec 2005 (CET)
Of course it's from the wrong level, as usual I was just lazy/inattentive. And at one point I'll remember who likes what patch format, promise. ;)
A patch target as in "create a new file holding a correct diff to current kernel source" would be rather difficult, since line numbers might change etc., but applying the patch should be straighforward with a bit of sed. Of course I could just do that, create a patch with the diff command and then apply the new patch file in reverse. ;)
--[[User:Spiney|spiney]] 18:36, 16 Dec 2005 (CET)
If it does that on a local copy (no changes the original kernel tree) and cleans up after itself, that's fine with me. :-)
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 18:50, 16 Dec 2005 (CET)
Ok, here's a shell script that creates the patch, feel free to use it under the terms of the GPL. For example call it from your Makefile with the patch target: (I didn't want to put all the script into the Makefile, since the rules about escaping in Makefiles, well, escape me ;)
KDIR=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
TMPDIR=$(mktemp -d)
mkdir -p a/$FDIR
cp $KDIR/$FDIR/{Kconfig,Makefile} a/$FDIR
cp -r a b
sed -i -e '/endmenu/i\
config IBM_SMAPI\
        tristate "IBM ThinkPad SMAPI Support"\
        depends on X86\
        This adds SMAPI support on IBM ThinkPads, mostly used for battery\
        charge control. For more information about this driver see\
        <http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/SMAPI_support_for_Linux> .\
        If you have an IBM ThinkPad laptop, say Y or M here.\
' b/$FDIR/Kconfig
sed -i -e '$a\
obj-$(CONFIG_IBM_SMAPI)            += tp_smapi.o' b/$FDIR/Makefile
cp $OPWD/tp_smapi.c b/$FDIR
diff -Nurp a b > $OPWD/tp_smapi-$(uname -r).patch
rm -r a b
cd $OPWD
BTW, [http://qbnz.com/highlighter/ GeSHi]-based syntax-highlighting would be great...
--[[User:Spiney|spiney]] 19:28, 16 Dec 2005 (CET)
Ah, neat sed foo. How about [http://tpctl.sourceforge.net/tmp/Makefile this] escapade, then?
What's the sed spell needed to replace the Makefile's
VER  := 0.13
with auto-parsing of
#define TP_VERSION "0.13"
from tp_smapi.c?
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 20:37, 16 Dec 2005 (CET)
Hmm, something like
VERFROMC=$(sed -ne 's/^#define TP_VERSION "\(.*\)"/\1/gp' tp_smapi.c)
sed -i -e "s/^VER := .*$/VER := $VERFROMC/" Makefile
should do (untested, from the top of my head, maybe the temporary variable isn't even necessary?). And neat Makefile wizardry, at one point I'll learn the syntax.
--[[User:Spiney|spiney]] 20:44, 16 Dec 2005 (CET)
Makefile escaping is horrible, keep avoiding it... Anyway, the updated [http://tpctl.sourceforge.net/tmp/Makefile make patch] seems to do the right thing.
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 21:36, 16 Dec 2005 (CET)
==Installation questions==
Amazing! I've loaded this module in my T43 which is running SuSE 10 with the kernel of 2.6.13-15. I have three points to share:
1. The battery control part seems to work but has a minor problem. I set the stop_charge_threshold to 70, but the battery stops charging at 55%. Don't know why and how to fix it. :P
2. I don't have the cd speed control function. Here is what I have under /sys/devices/platform/smapi/:
./  ../  ac_connected  BAT0/  BAT1/  bus@  driver@  power/
3. SuSE 10 doesn't have the necessary C files under .../drivers/hwmon/, I copied them from a kernel source. Maybe it causes the two problems above. :(
When I have time, I'll install the new kernel to see if the problems are gone and report the result.
--[[User:|]] 04:31, 2 Jan 2006 (CET)
1. It should stop charging at 70, but will only ''start'' charging when remaining capacity has dipped below <tt>start_charge_thresh</tt>.
2. See the note about PROVIDE_CD_SPEED.
3. That's should be needed only for patching the HDAPS driver in order to make it compatible with tp_smapi. If your kernel (which version is it?) doens't inlude the HDAPS driver anyway, you don't need to patch....
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 09:28, 2 Jan 2006 (CET)
Thanks Thinker.
1. I discharged and recharged the battery again. This time, it stops at 68% percent, which is pretty good.
2. I missed the NOTE in README, for I just followed this wiki. :P
3. My kernel version is 2.6.13-15.
By the way, I just got this T43 whose model number is 266896U. I feel that the noise of the fan is much louder than my previous T21. I think it is so since it has a CPU with bigger power but am wondering if other T43 has the same big noise?
--[[User:Tyne|Tyne]] 00:14, 3 Jan 2006 (CET)
The note about PROVIDE_CD_SPEED is also in the Wiki...
About the T43 fan noise: yes, this is a very common (and annoying) problem. See [[Problem_with_fan_noise]] and our [[ACPI fan control script]], and send Lenovo a complaint in hope they'll fix this at the firmware level.
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 08:48, 3 Jan 2006 (CET)
== Formatting ==
Wyrfel, that was some heavy editing you did... I agree with most changes (including the saner color choice). I did like those HINT floats, though - they keep the hints from interrupting the flow of text too much, and this particular text needs any help it can get.
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 17:04, 3 Jan 2006 (CET)
Hei Thinker,
I'll look into it again. I felt that the floating HINTs were tearing the text apart too much. Maybe we could fix it by placing the clear marks somewhere else.
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 18:46, 3 Jan 2006 (CET)

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