Talk:Installing Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) on a ThinkPad T61

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Would it be possible to clean up the "How to Suspend with nVidia 140m/570m" section? I was going to do it but after reading through i realized that my knowledge was too limited to do it well. but i think it could serously benifit from a good cleaning!

When trying to do anything with Twinview in fullscreen mode will cause it to span both monitors instead of just being on the second. This essencially kills the functionality of twinview.

eg 1 --> you are an office working bringing your notebook to work to show a presentation but you can't use full screen.

eg 2 --> you want take your notebook to a friends house to watch a movie on his/her projector and fullscreen mode gets half displayed on the projector and half on the notebook monitor.

Has anyone found a fix for this?

Does the Ubuntu wiki <> work? What adjustments are needed for Gutsy and NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M? Is it hotpluggable --like Twinview using 'nvidia-settings'?

Is it possible toset this up in Applications->System Tools->Nvidia Settings?

When i use Twinview with diffenent sizes of screens in 'clone' mode it crops my screen to match the smaller one. This makes my monitor pretty much useless. How do I get 'clone' to stretch (or shrink) instead of crop?


This discussion was going on in the wiki and seems a bit confusing. If possible I think we should get a consensus on the problem (if it still exists as of the final release) and solutions. --Darrena 18:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

This problem does still exist.

There are multiple fixes because the GUI can be a bit confusing and the microphone can be configured to work in multilple ways.

    • If the microphone section was confusing it should have been cleaned up not removed!


We should focus on providing clear instructions in the article and not provide a dumping ground for various thoughts and ideas. Everyone should certainly share what worked for them no matter how complicated but all of that should happen in the talk page so less technical users are not confused by the instructions. So far one person has said that their mic worked out of the box on a Beta install. Notice that the change I made was to point to the talk page so that the information was not lost but it made people aware that the various items are still being looked at. Personally I have never been able to get the mic to work with sound recorder but it seems to work fine with Ekiga once I set the default source via alsamixer. Also I think that recommending that people switch to OSS from alsa is going to cause even more confusion among less experienced users. In general sound is in poor shape right now but we can all hope that Pulseaudio will resolve this in time for 8.10. My suggestion would be to instruct users how to select the default source in alsamixer and then all apps that use Alsa /should/ work. I tested with Ekiga, Wengophone and Skype (Shudder!) and those seem to be the important apps to people. So if most people agree then I will write up a quick description of setting the default source in alsamixer and unmuting the mic. I don't care which solution we present but it should be as simple as possible and not require users to make changes beyond the initial setup and using ALSA seems to meet that requirement IMO. --Darrena 18:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Attn: Microphone (both internal and external) seems to be working for me with all applications after applying all updates (No need to change device to OSS) Make sure the relevant things (internal microphone, mic boost) etc aren't muted either in alsamixer or gnome-volume-control.

Microphone may not work with applications (like sound recorder and skype) even though sound can be heard through the speakers or headphones. If you have success in using the built in microphone please update this section.

It worked for me after i followed the instructions in this thread for ALSA

I had to tick the following tracks to make my mic work in Sound Recorder PCM, Microphone, Capture, Capture1, Input Source, Input Source, Internal Mic, Speaker.

For those that find the above instructions vague:

The whole 'Volume Control Center' could be better labelled but here is what i believe to be true: the microphone will work but only through the OSS mixer. the ALSA mixer is what causes the listed problem (not working with applications like skype) but the sound quality of alsa mixer is far better than the OSS mixer and it would be much more convenient to control so it would be hugely beneficial to get it working. Nonetheless here are more detailed instructions for getting sound working.

In the Playback tab you should have PCM, which is the only important one. If you have anything else there you should mute them. [On an X61 at least under playback was the option 'internal mic', unmute that and max it out, mute internal mic boost, make sure capture one is about 70% and thats all it took to get mine working]

In the 'recording' tab should be 'Capture' and 'Capture 1'(if they aren't you have to check them in Edit-->Preferences) 'Capture' controls the volume for the ALSA mic input and 'Capture 1' controls the volume for the OSS mic input. Mute 'Capture' and increase the volume of 'Capture 1'

The 'switches' tab should be as you set it up in the audio section of this wiki. headphones [check] and speakers [check].

The options tab (which i haven't quite figured out) should have a list of two 'Input Sources' I have mine set to 'Internal Mic' on the top and 'Mic' on the bottom. i don't know if that is correct but it is working for me.

Now go to File-->Change Device--> Analog Devices (OSS Mixer) You should see a 'Playback' tab with 'Microphone', 'PCM-2' and 'In-gain'. If you do not see these then open Edit-->Preferences and select them. Place your microphone volume at your desired level (mine is at about 7/8ths) and mute it when you are not using it, otherwise you get the crackle. The 'PCM-2' seems to only go fully up or fully down, i leave it fully up. I haven't figured out what effect the 'In-gain' has yet. (you'll be the first to know when i do)

This should give you the ability to record sound or skype but it is tedious as you will have to mute and unmute the microphone in the Analog Devices OSS area. Maybe there is a way to simplfy this method but i haven't found it. Hopefully soon recording with the ALSA mixer will work.

Core 2 Duo running at 800 mHz?

The applications Sysinfo and PowerTOP both say that my CPU is running at 800 MHz. When I first open Sysinfo, it says a number around 2 GHz but it then drops to 800 MHz. Sysinfo says something about laptop CPU frequency changing (being "dynamic"), but it remains static at 800 MHz. SteveSims 00:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

This is normal. This is the "frequency scaling" feature of the laptop. Whenever the processors aren't being used they drop down to 800MHz to conserve power. All you have to do is run some CPU-intensive task and you'll see them jump up to 2GHz. There's a little applet that you can add to the top panel called "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" that will let you watch the processor speed up and down in real time: Right-click on the top panel bar and select "Add to Panel" to find it; it's under "System and Hardware" --Mike Richards 06:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Desktop_Applet crash on login after update (2007-09-16) with x86 and AMD64 versions (Fixed in daily build 20070918, reappears in 20070919.1)

I found out that my Thinkpad T61 is a 64-bit machine so I installed the 64-bit version of Ubuntu 7.10 Tribe 5. I tried updating the machine, which worked fine until it had to configure and install my updates. With about 12 minutes remaining it hangs up and the terminal within the Update Manager says that some components must be restarted (and the update hangs) so I restart my computer. When I log in, I get an error message that says something about a Deskbar_Applet not working, and it asks me if I want to delete it. Regardless of my selection, I can no longer update the machine nor run Applications --> Add/Remove. I thought it must be a difference between AMD64 and Intel's x86-64 near-clone, so I re-installed the 32-bit version. When I updated, the same thing happened after I updated it. I'm guessing this is a bug withing the GUI or the package manager.

However, I can load Firefox from my panel just fine. SteveSims 05:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I had a similar problem. I found if I just avoided updating the system until after a full reboot, things were fine. Rybu
The most recent update (9-18-2007) solves this problem.
The problem appears again in 20070919.1, at least the AMD64 version (I haven't tested the x86-32 version). SteveSims 21:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
And it still exists as of September 20th. SteveSims 04:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Touchpad issues

After updating on September 18th from the original x86 Tribe 5, tapping the touchpad hard no longer clicks, and the right edge no longer scrolls. SteveSims 01:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to System -> Preferences -> Mouse. In the Touchpad tab you can activate tap to click and vertical scrolling. --aerials 13:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

My touch pad is overly sensitive --sometimes opening applications or documents as I attempt to pass the pointer over their icon. I have tried adjusting it in the Prefs-->Mouse. Are there any other ways to adjust the sensitivity? Do others have this issue?

I don't have this issue but I have seen similar issues before on other distros, have you tried installing gsynaptic and see if editing the sensitivity there works? --Darrena 01:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Daily build 20070918 AMD64 won't install

Double-clicking on the Install icon in the LiveCD does nothing. No window loads, I can't install it from the LiveCD. SteveSims 01:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Volume/Sound Buttons

In Kubuntu 7.10 beta work mute button but anything display on screen/desktop. When I press the volume up button, on the screen display a window and always write 11%, and the volume not hight (if mute is on then mute disabled). When I press the volume down button display 0% but the volume not down.

When the mute is enabled the kmix not display mute. Fitopaldi

If add this lines to ~/.kde/share/config/khotkeysrc the volume up button and volume down button works perfectly with kmix with DCOP.



Name=Volume up






Name=Volume down






But this is a temporal solution. ;) With this solution not work the volume info screen. Fitopaldi

Don't know if this is of any interest: under Kubuntu 7.04 with the kernel from Gutsy the volume up/down buttons worked for me. --Rawk 18:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Brightness buttons

The brightness buttons used to work on my system. But now that I have 2 displays, they don't work anymore. When I first installed Ubuntu 7.10 the brightness buttons did not work but I found some tips on-line to enable them... unfortunately I don't remember what those tips were... silly me... I'll dig up the info and put it into the wiki, soon. Rybu

In Kubuntu Gutsy don't work anymore. When I first installed Kubuntu 7.10 (tribe 5) yes work on console screen, but later the first update not work this. (NVIDIA GPU) Fitopaldi

I had the same problem and fixed it this way:

Edit /etc/acpi/ and insert before


(line 5) this:

echo 4 > /proc/acpi/ibm/cmos

Do the same with /etc/acpi/ using

echo 5 > /proc/acpi/ibm/cmos

The module thinkpad_acpi has to be loaded, but I think it's done automaticaly. If you use echo up/down > /proc/acpi/ibm/brightness it's not possible to use all levels (bug in thinkpad_acpi?). Rawk 17:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Compiling existing information

This [[1]] link has some useful information that is worthwhile compiling into the wiki here. Rybu

Desktop effects don't consistenly work

I installed new themes and updated today and suddenly the new desktop effects that were added to 7.10 don't work.

However, Deskbar_Applet doesn't crash with the update, even though it does with today's most current LiveCD. SteveSims 06:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

NetworkManger Intermittently Fails To Start, No Networking When It Fails

After the most recent Kernel patch under Gutsy, NetworkManager doesn't always manage to run when I boot, and when it fails I have no networking. If I try init.d/networking restart, it fails with 'unknown device' for all devices. Looking through the logs, my best guess is ath0 isn't ready when NetworkManager starts, so it starts cycling through other devices until it crashes. Does anyone have any ideas? It seems to only work about 1-2 boots out of 10.

I installed libdvdcss2, but DVD playback still doesn't work

I have all the GStreamer plugins. When I insert a DVD movie, Movie Player loads and I hear sound but there's no video. If I try to open a video from a location, I get this dialog box:
Totem no plugins.png

I always like the idea of using GStreamer instead of Xine, but the fact is, I've never really gotten DVDs to work very well without installing totem-xine. Maybe you don't want to do that, but if you haven't tried it, consider installing totem-xine? --Plumpy 23:32, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Here's what I get when I install totem-xine from Synaptic:
Totem-xine no DVD playback.png
SteveSims 00:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I decided to install some more xine plugins but now Totem closes immediately after opening if I insert a DVD. Here's a log of my xine package installations:
Commit Log for Tue Sep 25 17:25:49 2007

Installed the following packages:
libxine1-console (1.1.7-1ubuntu1)
libxine1-gnome (1.1.7-1ubuntu1)
libxine1-plugins (1.1.7-1ubuntu1)

Commit Log for Tue Sep 25 17:23:33 2007

Installed the following packages:
libpostproc1d (3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu4)
libxine1-ffmpeg (1.1.7-1ubuntu1)

Commit Log for Tue Sep 25 17:14:25 2007

Removed the following packages:

Installed the following packages:
libmodplug0c2 (1:0.7-5.2ubuntu1)
libpulse0 (0.9.6-1ubuntu2)
libxcb-shape0 (1.0-3)
libxcb-shm0 (1.0-3)
libxcb-xv0 (1.0-3)
libxcb1 (1.0-3)
libxine1 (1.1.7-1ubuntu1)
libxvmc1 (2:1.0.4-2ubuntu1)
totem-xine (2.20.0-0ubuntu1)

x86 vs 64bit on core 2 duo

What to choose? Why, why not?

In my case, I've installed the 64bit kernel. I develop some of my own software which has a fair amount of optimizations with the 64-bit architecture. Rybu
64-bit will run faster. I say install the AMD64 version. Don't let your new, fast 64-bit processor go to waste! SteveSims 06:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Black screen at boot

When try to boot gutsy-desktop-amd64 the screen turns black, even when i use "Safe Graphics" mode. Having a nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M card


Was doing a re-install, and got the problem again, have waited a loong time... Zpon 09:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Still annoying

I still have this problem at boot up. I also have the nVIDIA card, and I get black screen instead of the splash screen. X eventually comes up, but I'd love to know how to fix this.

--Do you have 'vga=' enabled as a kernel parameter? If yes then remove that.

Update 2007-10-11 works fine

Announcement. SteveSims 05:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Power Consumption

I have enabled laptop-mode (level 2) and also used PowerTOP to optimize the power consumption of my T61 with NVIDIA 140M. But even though the brightness is set at minimum the power consumption just does not want to drop below 19W. Is this a usual behaviour?

I used to get much lower power utilization but now I am seeing the same thing you do. I plan on doing some deeper looks soon and see why this change.

Most programs won't install in the 10-18 install of AMD64 version; probably not a 64-bit issue

I tried installing the GStreamer plugins, VLC Media Player, and KolourPaint (a KDE application) from Add/Remove Programs and it told me the following:

Cannot install 'kolourpaint'

This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'kolourpaint' the conflicting software must be removed first.

Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.

I tried to install these programs/plugins one at a time, and got the same message (albeit with 'vlc', etc. instead of 'kolourpaint').

Of course, I don't know which packages conflict with them, so I can't use Synaptic to remove the conflicting packages. It did, however, successfully install Sysinfo. I went to Synaptic and found that there were no KDE packages installed. SteveSims 23:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I just ran sudo apt-get update and I still can't install these things.

I also tried to install Battle for Wesnoth (at least the wesnoth-all package) and was told that it has unresolvable dependencies. "Depends: wesnoth but it is not going to be installed" and the same thing for about 9 or so other packages. SteveSims 23:53, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Networking craps out

The network on my T61 with Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61) card occasionally just goes away. If I

 modprobe -r iwl4965
 modprobe iwl4965
 /etc/init.d/networking restart

it will come back, but this is annoying. Anybody have any ideas here?

There was a similar problem with an old version of wpa_supplicant a month ago but a fix has existed since Tribe 5. Can you post the relevent messages from /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog? --Darrena 12:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Logs /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages - hope this will help track down the problem...
I get the same problems, several times a day, very annoying Zpon 09:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Rotate Display when docked

I have a Thinkpad T61 running Windows Vista Ultimate (ick). I also have a minidock. Currently (when not crashing) I have it setup to use the wireless NIC when undocked. When I dock the laptop, it switches to the hardline NIC and rotates the display for my 19" portrait monitor. The resolution also changes, of course.

Is this possible with Ubuntu (or any distro) or will I have to do some manual fiddling everytime I dock/undock?

Yes it is possible but the how depends on your video card. If it is the intel card you can use xrandr to create a script to set the video up exactly how you want it and then bind that to a key. --Darrena 21:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Bluetooth script error

 cat /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth | awk '{ print $2 }' | while read line;
   if [ $line == "enabled" ]; then
       echo disable > /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth
       echo enable > /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth

should be:

 cat /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth | awk '{ print $2 }' | while read line;
   if [ $line = "enabled" ]; then
       echo disable > /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth
       echo enable > /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth


GM965 instead of X3100 Intel graphics?

My device manager shows this:
GM965 X3100.png
The T61 should have an X3100, and both are integrated onto the motherboard, so is Linux treating my X3100 like a GM965?