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Information about the fan noise problem in Thinkpad models from 2003/2004.

==Problem description==

There seem to be two different occurances of the problem (or two different problems).

===acceleration problem:===
The Thinkpad Fan accelerates in regular intervals, making an annoying noise.

===always on problem:===
The Fan is always on, even though the processor is rather cool.

==Affected Models==

===acceleration problem:===
*Thinkpad T40, T40p, T41, T42(?)

===always on problem:===
*Thinkpad T40, T40p, T41, T41p, T42, T42p, T43
*Thinkpad R50, R50p, R51, R51p, R32
*Thinkpad A31p
*Thinkpad 770X

==Affected Operating Systems==

===acceleration problem:===
*Linux, all flavours

===always on problem:===
*Linux, all flavours
*FreeBSD 5.3
*Windows XP
*Windows 2000 pro

==Status==

===acceleration problem:===
IBM released an update to the embedded controller program that seems to at least partially solve this problem:

 Version 3.03 - 1RHT70WW
 NOTE: This version of Embedded Controller Program will only work with BIOS Version 3.06f (or higher).
    * (Fix) Reduced Fan noise in some models.

The update can be found here: http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-50279

===always on problem:===
The problem is yet unsolved.

IBM made a statement regarding this on their homepage:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-56504.html

It seems that it's a feature of centrino - http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2004-September/019737.html
Perhaps it's fixable by adding the fans and temps to the dsdt?

====partial fix:====
When loading [http://ibm-acpi.sourceforge.net/ IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras v0.11] with experimental switch (modprobe ibm_acpi experimantal=1), it is possible to read and write the status of fan:

 '''#cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan'''
 status:         enabled
 speed:          3580
 commands:       enable, disable
 
 '''#echo disable > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan'''
 
 '''cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan'''
 status:         disabled
 speed:          0
 commands:       enable, disable

But the fan will then '''never''' wake up. So, we need a small script witch is constantly checking the temperature and setting the fan on/off when needed. (deamon? cron job?) If anyone has an idea please post it here.

'''sh script example'''

<pre>
#!/bin/sh

MAXTEMP=50

while [ 1 ];
do
        fan=no

        for temp in `sed s/temperatures:// < /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal`
        do
                test $temp -gt $MAXTEMP && fan=yes
        done

        command='disable'
        test "$fan" = "yes" && command='enable'
        echo $command > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan

        sleep 20
done
</pre>

==Solutions==

===acceleration problem:===

====Replacing the fan====
Some people reported that they replaced the original fan against one of a similar notebook without the problem has worked for them,
i.e. changing a T41s fan against one from a T41p.

====BIOS upgrade====
You can try upgrading your embedded controller program to version 3.03 or newer.

The update can be found here: http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-50279

===always on problem:===

It seems like for some people a combination of enabling dynamic frequency scaling and using the most recent radeon drivers (from xorg 6.8.x) with the  DynamicClocks option enabled helped lowing the fan rotation and hence making it more quiet.

Also the fglrx driver from ATI is said to show the same effect when used together with dynamic frequency scaling.

On a 770X the fan can be fully controlled through ACPI.  Thermal Zone THM5 (possibly the battery/charging circuit, it's definitely warmer when using 5v PCMCIA cards and AC) triggers it to turn on and not ever off by design.  Can be solved by a custom DSDT, which also makes use of the variable-speed features of the fan (will release this once I've finished tweaking and testing it).

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