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** 2658-BQG
 
** 2658-BQG
 
* {{R40}}
 
* {{R40}}
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** 2722-3GG
 
** 2722-5MG
 
** 2722-5MG
 
** 2722-B3G
 
** 2722-B3G
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** 1829-9MG
 
** 1829-9MG
 
** 1829-EHG
 
** 1829-EHG
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** 1829-L7G
 
** 1829-R6G
 
** 1829-R6G
 
** 1830-DG4
 
** 1830-DG4
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** 1830-BMG
 
** 1836-Q6U
 
** 1836-Q6U
 
* {{T23}}
 
* {{T23}}
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** 2366-96G
 
** 2366-96G
 
*{{T40}}
 
*{{T40}}
**2373-MU3
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**2373-19G
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**2373-22G
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**2373-42G
 +
**2373-75G
 
**2373-82U
 
**2373-82U
 
**2373-92U
 
**2373-92U
**2373-22G
 
**2373-19G
 
 
**2373-A1U
 
**2373-A1U
**2373-42G
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**2373-MU3
 
*{{T40p}}
 
*{{T40p}}
 
**2373-G1U  
 
**2373-G1U  
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* {{T41}}
 
* {{T41}}
 
**2379-DJU
 
**2379-DJU
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**2373-3KG
 
**2373-9HU
 
**2373-9HU
 
**2373-4FG
 
**2373-4FG
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**2373-2FG
 
**2373-2FG
 
**2373-2GG
 
**2373-2GG
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**2373-6G2
 
**2373-6U4
 
**2373-6U4
 
**2373-7JU
 
**2373-7JU
 
**2373-CY0
 
**2373-CY0
 
**2373-TG5
 
**2373-TG5
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**2373-3HM
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**2373-4GU
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**2373-8RG
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**2373-SA1
 
* {{T41p}}
 
* {{T41p}}
 
**2373-9FU
 
**2373-9FU
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**2378-DTU
 
**2378-DTU
 
**2378-DUU
 
**2378-DUU
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**2378-XXE
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**2378-R4U
 
**2373-FWG
 
**2373-FWG
 
**2374-ZEP
 
**2374-ZEP
 
**2373-F2G
 
**2373-F2G
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**2373-JTU
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**2373-VUW
 
**[[2373-6ZG]]
 
**[[2373-6ZG]]
 
* {{X21}}
 
* {{X21}}
 
**2662-BSG
 
**2662-BSG
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* {{X22}}
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**2662-9DU
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* {{X24}}
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**2662-MQU
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* {{X31}}
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**2672-C2G
 
* {{X32}}
 
* {{X32}}
 
**2884-A3U
 
**2884-A3U
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*{{X41T}}
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** 1869-5CU
 
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*[[:Category:A22m | A22m]]
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**2628
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*[[:Category:A31 | A31]]
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**2652-D5G
 
*[[:Category:R50p | R50p]]
 
*[[:Category:R50p | R50p]]
 
*[[:Category:R52 | R52]]
 
*[[:Category:R52 | R52]]
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**[[2373-M1G]]
 
**[[2373-M1G]]
 
**[[2373-WBZ]]
 
**[[2373-WBZ]]
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**[[2373-F7G]]
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**[[2378-DXU]]
 
**[[2378-FVU]]
 
**[[2378-FVU]]
 
**[[2378-RTU]]
 
**[[2378-RTU]]
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*[[:Category:T43 | T43]]
 
*[[:Category:T43 | T43]]
 
**[[2668-W12]]
 
**[[2668-W12]]
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*[[:Category:T43p | T43p]]
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**[[2668-G2G]]
 
*[[:Category:X40 | X40]]
 
*[[:Category:X40 | X40]]
 
**2371
 
**2371
*[[:Category:A22m | A22m]]
 
**2628
 
*[[:Category:A31 | A31]]
 
**2652-D5G
 
 
|}
 
|}
 
*Different symptoms have been reported for different models. In some models the origin of the power drain is obvious ([[Problem with LCD backlight remaining on during ACPI sleep|backlight on during suspend]]), in other models there is no obvious reason.
 
*Different symptoms have been reported for different models. In some models the origin of the power drain is obvious ([[Problem with LCD backlight remaining on during ACPI sleep|backlight on during suspend]]), in other models there is no obvious reason.
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*On some models/configurations the higher power drain couldn't even be realized or was at least significantly lower.
 
*On some models/configurations the higher power drain couldn't even be realized or was at least significantly lower.
  
*The T4x ThinkPad series and other Radeon based models suspend to ram just fine, and there are no components that are obviously left powered up. The [[UltraBay]] and network light is on, but that is the same under windows (but under APM sleep to RAM those lights are OFF). For these models the higher power drain is caused by a driver problem and can be fixed in software. This fix has not yet made its way into the official kernel (as of linux 2.6.12).
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*The T4x ThinkPad series and other Radeon based models suspend to ram just fine, and there are no components that are obviously left powered up. The [[UltraBay]] and network light is on, but that is the same under windows (but under APM sleep to RAM those lights are OFF). For these models the higher power drain is caused by a driver problem and can be fixed in software. Starting with linux 2.6.18 this fix is in the official kernel.
  
 
The table on the right gives an overview of the models suffering from the mysterious power drain. To find out about your model, you may use the following [[ACPI sleep power drain test script | script]]. It creates a file {{path|/var/log/battery.log}} which will tell you if you are affected or not.
 
The table on the right gives an overview of the models suffering from the mysterious power drain. To find out about your model, you may use the following [[ACPI sleep power drain test script | script]]. It creates a file {{path|/var/log/battery.log}} which will tell you if you are affected or not.
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*FreeBSD (on the A22M)
 
*FreeBSD (on the A22M)
  
==Status==
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==Radeon GPU not powered off==
*The cause of the mysterious power drain is the Radeon GPU, which requires extra steps to suspend properly. Unfortunately, this fix might break non-ThinkPad machines and therefore is not yet in the official kernel sources.
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A frequent cause of the mysterious power drain is the Radeon GPU, which requires extra steps to suspend properly. We identified affected thinkpads, and [[radeonfb]] activates the workaround on those models automatically (starting with linux kernel 2.6.18).
*The official bugzilla entry for the radeon suspend issue is in the [http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3022 OSDL Bugzilla]. There you can find a patch which will solve the power drain issue.
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{{WARN|This solution enables doing suspend-to-D2 on non-PPC-machines, which is not properly documented! Be careful and have a look at the discussion for kernel bug 3022 (see above) before applying the patch. By default, the patch enables the suspend-to-D2 only on machines where it is known to work. This behaviour can be overridden with a module option.}}
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===Status===
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*The official bugzilla entry for the radeon suspend issue is in the [http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3022 OSDL Bugzilla]. There you can find the above-mentioned patch for older kernel versions. The patch removes the CONFIG_PPC_PMAC condition for enabling D2 sleep in {{path|drivers/video/aty/radeon_pm.c}}. If you suspect that this patch makes things worse, you can disable it by the kernel parameter {{bootparm|video|radeonfb:ignore_devlist|1}}. Similarly, if the patch is not automatically activated on your notebook you can force it by {{bootparm|video|radeonfb:force_sleep|1}}. In case that improves your sleep, please leave a note in the bugzilla including the output of {{cmdroot|lspci -d "1002:*" -vn}}. See also [http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.hardware.thinkpad/25355 the linux-thinkpad ML post requesting this information] for more information.  
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*Most certainly, the DSDT is not at fault. (Interesting to note: The DSDT from BIOS 3.13 (Nov 04) for the T42p compiles without bugs.)
 
*Most certainly, the DSDT is not at fault. (Interesting to note: The DSDT from BIOS 3.13 (Nov 04) for the T42p compiles without bugs.)
*Some additional power savings can be achieved by turning off the wake-on-lan ({{cmdroot|ethtool -s eth0 wol d}}). The power drain of the wol feature is far smaller than the radeon bug, but can be noticeable.
 
  
==Solutions==
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===Solutions===
===For ThinkPads with Radeon graphic chips===
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You must use a recent (or patched) version of the [[radeonfb]] driver, even if you are only interested in using the X window system. The radeon frame buffer suspends the radeon chip correctly during ACPI sleep. Starting with linux 2.6.18, this patch is in the official (kernel.org) kernels.
You must use a patched version of the radeon frame buffer, even if you are only interested in using the X window system. This modified radeon frame buffer then suspends the radeon chip correctly during ACPI sleep. This patch is not yet in the official (kernel.org) kernels.
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If the patch is known to work on your notebook, it is automatically enabled. If you think that your computer would profit from the patch as well, you can force it by including the module parameter {{bootparm|video|radeonfb:force_sleep|1}}. If it does not work this can result in system hangs.
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====Problem with radeonfb and X====
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In some cases [[radeonfb]] cannot coexist with the [[radeon]] X.org driver (causing corrupted rendering and hangs). Using the <tt>Option "UseFBDev" "True"</tt> of [[radeon]] may help, but this is incompatible with [[radeon]]'s mergedfb mode. A "GPU device layer" architecture which may, one day, resolve this was proposed by Dave Airlie [http://airlied.livejournal.com/#item30632 here] and [http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/7/22/45 here].
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{{HELP|Practical solutions for this problem are needed}}
  
The [http://bugme.osdl.org/attachment.cgi?id=5565&action=view patch] contains a list of ThinkPads where it is known to work, and by default only activates on these machines. If you think that your computer would profit from the patch as well, you can force it by including the module parameter {{bootparm|radeon_force_sleep|1}}. If it doesn't work this can result in system hangs.
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Configurations which exhibit this problem: {{T43}} [[ATI Mobility Radeon X300]] with {{Fedora}} 5 using the [[radeon]] driver, with and without DRI.
  
====Technical Background====
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Configurations which don't exhibit this problem: {{T41}} [[ATI Mobility Radeon 9000]] running {{Fedora}} 5 and 6 using [[radeon]] driver, with and without DRI.
The patch removes the CONFIG_PPC_PMAC condition for enabling D2 sleep in {{path|drivers/video/aty/radeon_pm.c}} as discussed in [http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3022 kernel bug 3022].  
 
  
 
====Fedora Core====
 
====Fedora Core====
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* Fedora Core 6: Ships with kernel >= 2.6.18, only needs initrd (see below).
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* Fedora Core 5: The latest kernel from updates (2.6.18-1.2200.fc5) seems to actually fix this issue, you only have to make custom initrd because the default one does not contain radeonfb.
 
* Fedora Core 4: Fedora ships a patched radeon frame buffer (radeonfb.ko), but you must enable it yourself. {{Fedora}} compiles it as a module rather than including it in the kernel, therefore you cannot activate it at boot time without a custom initrd. You must arrange for the module to be loaded before X starts (for example, using an init script).
 
* Fedora Core 4: Fedora ships a patched radeon frame buffer (radeonfb.ko), but you must enable it yourself. {{Fedora}} compiles it as a module rather than including it in the kernel, therefore you cannot activate it at boot time without a custom initrd. You must arrange for the module to be loaded before X starts (for example, using an init script).
 
* Fedora Core 3: this is also true for updated kernels (at least for kernel-2.6.12-1.1376_FC3) but '''not''' for the initially shipped version.
 
* Fedora Core 3: this is also true for updated kernels (at least for kernel-2.6.12-1.1376_FC3) but '''not''' for the initially shipped version.
  
There are precompiled patched kernels [http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~vbraun/computing/T41/kernel.html available] as well, that do not need an initrd modification:
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====openSuSE====
*[http://carrot.hep.upenn.edu/~vbraun/kernel-T4x/i386/kernel-T4x-2.6.11.11-26.i386.rpm linux 2.6.11 for Fedora Core 3]
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* openSuSE 10.2: Ships with kernel >= 2.6.18. Needs initrd and boot menu changes. See [[http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:ThinkPadPowerDrain openSuSE SDB article on ThinkPad power drain problem]]
*[http://carrot.hep.upenn.edu/~vbraun/kernel-T4x/i386/kernel-T4x-2.6.12.2-2.i386.rpm linux 2.6.12 for Fedora Core 4]
 
These kernels contain additional ThinkPad-related patches, including software suspend2 and trackpoint support. Suspend to disk and suspend to ram should work with them. If your ThinkPad model is not yet whitelisted in the patch, you might have to enable the radeon fix by including the parameter {{bootparm|video|2=radeonfb:radeon_force_sleep=1}} on the kernel command line.
 
 
 
If you try, please send the result (hang yes/no, battery drain yes/no) with the precise model number (i.e. IBM ThinkPad T41 2379-DJU) to <tt>vbraun at physics dot upenn dot edu</tt>, it would be nice if your subject line would include "RADEONFB:" to make sure that I do not miss any emails.
 
  
=====testing radeonfb without changing initrd=====
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====testing radeonfb without changing initrd====
 
If you want to try the radeon frame buffer, you can enable it as follows:
 
If you want to try the radeon frame buffer, you can enable it as follows:
 
*First, switch to a console ({{key|Ctrl}}{{key|Alt}}{{key|F1}}) and log in as root.
 
*First, switch to a console ({{key|Ctrl}}{{key|Alt}}{{key|F1}}) and log in as root.
 
*Stop X: {{cmdroot|init 3}}
 
*Stop X: {{cmdroot|init 3}}
*Now you can load the module: {{cmdroot|1=modprobe radeonfb radeon_force_sleep=1}}
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*Now you can load the module: {{cmdroot|1=modprobe radeonfb force_sleep=1}}
 
*Finally, resume X: {{cmdroot|init 5}}
 
*Finally, resume X: {{cmdroot|init 5}}
  
=====including radeonfb into your initrd=====
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====Gentoo====
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After installing the patch on {{Gentoo}} (it works fine with gentoo-sources: {{cmdroot|cd /usr/src/linux/drivers/video/aty}}, and execute {{cmdroot|patch -p4 < <patchname>}}, then recompile the kernel), one needs to add {{bootparm|video|radeonfb:force_sleep}} to the kernel parameters.
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====Ubuntu====
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I used the instructions given by [http://benbloggt.blogage.de/entries/2008/7/28/Framebuffer-in-Ubuntu-aktivieren this site] to enable radeonfb in Kubuntu 9.4:
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* edit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and add the line "radeonfb"
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* sudo update-initramfs -u
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* edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer and comment out the line "blacklist radeonfb"
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====including radeonfb into your initrd====
 
As an alternative you can build your customized initrd. This is as simple as running
 
As an alternative you can build your customized initrd. This is as simple as running
 
:{{cmdroot|1=mkinitrd --with=radeonfb /boot/<name-of-your-new-initrd> `uname -r`}}
 
:{{cmdroot|1=mkinitrd --with=radeonfb /boot/<name-of-your-new-initrd> `uname -r`}}
and replacing the initrd in {{path|/boot/grub/grub.conf}} with your new one. You also need to add the kernel command line argument {{bootparm|video|2=radeonfb:radeon_force_sleep=1}}.
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and replacing the initrd in {{path|/boot/grub/grub.conf}} with your new one. You also need to add the kernel command line argument {{bootparm|video|2=radeonfb:force_sleep}}.
  
====Gentoo====
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With FC6 and KDE I had to:
After installing the patch on {{Gentoo}} (it works fine with gentoo-sources: {{cmdroot|cd /usr/src/linux/drivers/video/aty}}, and execute {{cmdroot|patch -p4 <patchname>}}, then recompile the kernel), one needs to add {{bootparm|video|radeonfb:force_sleep}} to the kernel parameters.
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*Login as root
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*Enter the command as {{cmdroot|1=mkinitrd --with=radeonfb /boot/<name-of-your-new-initrd> <kernel version>}}
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:e.g. {{cmdroot|1=mkinitrd --with=radeonfb /boot/initrd-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6-my.img 2.6.18-1.2798.fc6}}
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:And the kernel command line argument was added to /etc/sysconfig/grub.
  
====Another possible solution====
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==Backlight staying on==
It is possible that [[radeontool]] will help some people with this case.
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It is possible that [[radeontool]] will help some people if the backlight stays on.
(simply run radeontool light off before suspend and radeontool light on after resume).
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(simply run "radeontool light off" before suspend and "radeontool light on" after resume).
 
A radeontool patch for freebsd is here: http://www.init-main.com/radeontool.patch (by Takanori Watanabe).
 
A radeontool patch for freebsd is here: http://www.init-main.com/radeontool.patch (by Takanori Watanabe).
  
===For models without radeon graphics===
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===Notes for gnome-power-manager===
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If you suspend from Gnome and need to run radeontool to turn the backlight off you need to find the suspend script for HAL. In Ubuntu, the scripts are located in /usr/share/hal/scripts/. Add the following the script "hal-system-power-suspend":
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chvt 1
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radeontool light off
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And in the resume script ("restore-after-standby"):
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radeontool light on
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chvt 7
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This worked for me. YMMV. [[User:Etnoy|Etnoy]] 16:27, 9 November 2006 (CET)
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===For models without Radeon graphics===
 
The Problem seems to be solved when you use the [http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mjg59/vbetool/ vbetool] to turn the LCD off before suspending ...
 
The Problem seems to be solved when you use the [http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mjg59/vbetool/ vbetool] to turn the LCD off before suspending ...
 
:{{cmdroot|vbetool dpms off}}
 
:{{cmdroot|vbetool dpms off}}
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:{{cmdroot|ethtool -s eth0 wol d}}
 
:{{cmdroot|ethtool -s eth0 wol d}}
 
With these commands used together the "testing script" reports no high power drain while suspending.
 
With these commands used together the "testing script" reports no high power drain while suspending.
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==Other problems causing the power drain==
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On my [[:Category:R51|R51]] using Gentoo Linux, the high power drain was not caused by the graphics adaptor but by several components not powered down properly before putting the Thinkpad into S3.
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If the above did not help you, this might do:
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Walk through
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/sys/devices/*/*/power/state
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and try to disable each of it, every time checking the power drain. (See linux/Documentation/power/devices.txt for values to write into the state-files. 3 should be the value you want to try)
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Do the same for other components (Like the Ultrabay, etc.). Please add your experiences here.
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===R51: Ultrabay and networking===
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On my system, ultrabay and networking light were still on while in S3. So were the devices theirselves.
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echo -n eject > /proc/acpi/ibm/bay    # Disable ultrabay
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ethtool -s eth0 wol d                  # Disable Wake-On-Lan (And so the eth-adaptor)
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echo mem > /sys/power/state            # Sleep
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For me, this lowered the power drain from >700mW to 338 mW.
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===USB===
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My initial testing of a [[:Category:T43|T43]] (2669-model) revealed no power drain issues. However, after several rounds of BIOS and kernel upgrades I have discovered that the power drain has risen to >700mWh. Having tested things a bit, I have discoved that removing ehci_hcd module solved the high power drain. This is a [[:Category:T43|T43]] laptop, with kernel 2.6.17-r5 and BIOS 1.28/EC 1.06. For me, issuing {{cmdroot|modprobe -r ehci_hcd}} before going to sleep and reloading the module ({{cmdroot|modprobe ehci_hcd}}) after waking up dropped the power drain down to 277mWh in suspend2ram, which seems fair. The unloading/reloading can be put into the suitable ACPI script called to suspend the laptop.
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===Wake-on-LAN===
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Some additional power savings can be achieved by turning off the wake-on-lan ({{cmdroot|ethtool -s eth0 wol d}}). The power drain of the wol feature is far smaller than the radeon bug, but can be noticeable.

Latest revision as of 22:40, 28 October 2009

Problem description

Several people realized that their ThinkPads eat up too much power while suspended to ram via ACPI. Compared to APM suspend to ram the power drain is experienced to be about 10 times as high, 2-5 Watts. This empties the battery within one or two days.

Affected Models

affected models unaffected models
  • R32
    • 2658-BQG
  • R40
    • 2722-3GG
    • 2722-5MG
    • 2722-B3G
    • 2722-CDG
    • 2897-GWU
    • 2722-6YU
    • 2722-CDG
  • R50
    • 1829-7RG
    • 1829-6DM
    • 1836-3SU
  • R51
    • 1829-9MG
    • 1829-EHG
    • 1829-L7G
    • 1829-R6G
    • 1830-DG4
    • 1830-BMG
    • 1836-Q6U
  • T23
    • 2647-???
  • T30
    • 2366-81A
    • 2366-97U
    • 2366-FBU
    • 2366-96G
  • T40
    • 2373-19G
    • 2373-22G
    • 2373-42G
    • 2373-75G
    • 2373-82U
    • 2373-92U
    • 2373-A1U
    • 2373-MU3
  • T40p
    • 2373-G1U
    • 2373-G3U
    • 2373-G3G
    • 2373-G1G
    • 2373-G5G
  • T41
    • 2379-DJU
    • 2373-3KG
    • 2373-9HU
    • 2373-4FG
    • 2373-4PG
    • 2373-1FG
    • 2373-2FG
    • 2373-2GG
    • 2373-6G2
    • 2373-6U4
    • 2373-7JU
    • 2373-CY0
    • 2373-TG5
    • 2373-3HM
    • 2373-4GU
    • 2373-8RG
    • 2373-SA1
  • T41p
    • 2373-9FU
  • T42
    • 2373-C19
    • 2373-CTO
    • 2378-DTU
    • 2378-DUU
    • 2378-XXE
    • 2378-R4U
    • 2373-FWG
    • 2374-ZEP
    • 2373-F2G
    • 2373-JTU
    • 2373-VUW
    • 2373-6ZG
  • X21
    • 2662-BSG
  • X22
    • 2662-9DU
  • X24
    • 2662-MQU
  • X31
    • 2672-C2G
  • X32
    • 2884-A3U
  • X41 Tablet
    • 1869-5CU
  • Different symptoms have been reported for different models. In some models the origin of the power drain is obvious (backlight on during suspend), in other models there is no obvious reason.
  • On some models/configurations the higher power drain couldn't even be realized or was at least significantly lower.
  • The T4x ThinkPad series and other Radeon based models suspend to ram just fine, and there are no components that are obviously left powered up. The UltraBay and network light is on, but that is the same under windows (but under APM sleep to RAM those lights are OFF). For these models the higher power drain is caused by a driver problem and can be fixed in software. Starting with linux 2.6.18 this fix is in the official kernel.

The table on the right gives an overview of the models suffering from the mysterious power drain. To find out about your model, you may use the following script. It creates a file /var/log/battery.log which will tell you if you are affected or not.

Affected Operating Systems

  • Linux, all flavours.
  • Windows, for some models as well (only when using non-IBM drivers).
  • FreeBSD (on the A22M)

Radeon GPU not powered off

A frequent cause of the mysterious power drain is the Radeon GPU, which requires extra steps to suspend properly. We identified affected thinkpads, and radeonfb activates the workaround on those models automatically (starting with linux kernel 2.6.18).

Status

  • The official bugzilla entry for the radeon suspend issue is in the OSDL Bugzilla. There you can find the above-mentioned patch for older kernel versions. The patch removes the CONFIG_PPC_PMAC condition for enabling D2 sleep in drivers/video/aty/radeon_pm.c. If you suspect that this patch makes things worse, you can disable it by the kernel parameter video=radeonfb:ignore_devlist. Similarly, if the patch is not automatically activated on your notebook you can force it by video=radeonfb:force_sleep. In case that improves your sleep, please leave a note in the bugzilla including the output of # lspci -d "1002:*" -vn. See also the linux-thinkpad ML post requesting this information for more information.
  • Most certainly, the DSDT is not at fault. (Interesting to note: The DSDT from BIOS 3.13 (Nov 04) for the T42p compiles without bugs.)

Solutions

You must use a recent (or patched) version of the radeonfb driver, even if you are only interested in using the X window system. The radeon frame buffer suspends the radeon chip correctly during ACPI sleep. Starting with linux 2.6.18, this patch is in the official (kernel.org) kernels.

If the patch is known to work on your notebook, it is automatically enabled. If you think that your computer would profit from the patch as well, you can force it by including the module parameter video=radeonfb:force_sleep. If it does not work this can result in system hangs.

Problem with radeonfb and X

In some cases radeonfb cannot coexist with the radeon X.org driver (causing corrupted rendering and hangs). Using the Option "UseFBDev" "True" of radeon may help, but this is incompatible with radeon's mergedfb mode. A "GPU device layer" architecture which may, one day, resolve this was proposed by Dave Airlie here and here.

Help needed
Practical solutions for this problem are needed

Configurations which exhibit this problem: T43 ATI Mobility Radeon X300 with Fedora 5 using the radeon driver, with and without DRI.

Configurations which don't exhibit this problem: T41 ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 running Fedora 5 and 6 using radeon driver, with and without DRI.

Fedora Core

  • Fedora Core 6: Ships with kernel >= 2.6.18, only needs initrd (see below).
  • Fedora Core 5: The latest kernel from updates (2.6.18-1.2200.fc5) seems to actually fix this issue, you only have to make custom initrd because the default one does not contain radeonfb.
  • Fedora Core 4: Fedora ships a patched radeon frame buffer (radeonfb.ko), but you must enable it yourself. Fedora compiles it as a module rather than including it in the kernel, therefore you cannot activate it at boot time without a custom initrd. You must arrange for the module to be loaded before X starts (for example, using an init script).
  • Fedora Core 3: this is also true for updated kernels (at least for kernel-2.6.12-1.1376_FC3) but not for the initially shipped version.

openSuSE

testing radeonfb without changing initrd

If you want to try the radeon frame buffer, you can enable it as follows:

  • First, switch to a console (CtrlAltF1) and log in as root.
  • Stop X: # init 3
  • Now you can load the module: # modprobe radeonfb force_sleep=1
  • Finally, resume X: # init 5

Gentoo

After installing the patch on Gentoo (it works fine with gentoo-sources: # cd /usr/src/linux/drivers/video/aty, and execute # patch -p4 < <patchname>, then recompile the kernel), one needs to add video=radeonfb:force_sleep to the kernel parameters.

Ubuntu

I used the instructions given by this site to enable radeonfb in Kubuntu 9.4:

  • edit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and add the line "radeonfb"
  • sudo update-initramfs -u
  • edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer and comment out the line "blacklist radeonfb"

including radeonfb into your initrd

As an alternative you can build your customized initrd. This is as simple as running

# mkinitrd --with=radeonfb /boot/<name-of-your-new-initrd> `uname -r`

and replacing the initrd in /boot/grub/grub.conf with your new one. You also need to add the kernel command line argument video=radeonfb:force_sleep.

With FC6 and KDE I had to:

  • Login as root
  • Enter the command as # mkinitrd --with=radeonfb /boot/<name-of-your-new-initrd> <kernel version>
e.g. # mkinitrd --with=radeonfb /boot/initrd-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6-my.img 2.6.18-1.2798.fc6
And the kernel command line argument was added to /etc/sysconfig/grub.

Backlight staying on

It is possible that radeontool will help some people if the backlight stays on. (simply run "radeontool light off" before suspend and "radeontool light on" after resume). A radeontool patch for freebsd is here: http://www.init-main.com/radeontool.patch (by Takanori Watanabe).

Notes for gnome-power-manager

If you suspend from Gnome and need to run radeontool to turn the backlight off you need to find the suspend script for HAL. In Ubuntu, the scripts are located in /usr/share/hal/scripts/. Add the following the script "hal-system-power-suspend":

chvt 1
radeontool light off

And in the resume script ("restore-after-standby"):

radeontool light on
chvt 7

This worked for me. YMMV. Etnoy 16:27, 9 November 2006 (CET)

For models without Radeon graphics

The Problem seems to be solved when you use the vbetool to turn the LCD off before suspending ...

# vbetool dpms off

and turning it on afterwards again...

# vbetool dpms on

You have to change to a normal console before turning the LCD off. Additionally you have to deactivate the Wake-On-Lan feature like mentioned above ...

# ethtool -s eth0 wol d

With these commands used together the "testing script" reports no high power drain while suspending.

Other problems causing the power drain

On my R51 using Gentoo Linux, the high power drain was not caused by the graphics adaptor but by several components not powered down properly before putting the Thinkpad into S3.

If the above did not help you, this might do:

Walk through

/sys/devices/*/*/power/state

and try to disable each of it, every time checking the power drain. (See linux/Documentation/power/devices.txt for values to write into the state-files. 3 should be the value you want to try) Do the same for other components (Like the Ultrabay, etc.). Please add your experiences here.

R51: Ultrabay and networking

On my system, ultrabay and networking light were still on while in S3. So were the devices theirselves.

echo -n eject > /proc/acpi/ibm/bay     # Disable ultrabay
ethtool -s eth0 wol d                  # Disable Wake-On-Lan (And so the eth-adaptor)
echo mem > /sys/power/state            # Sleep

For me, this lowered the power drain from >700mW to 338 mW.

USB

My initial testing of a T43 (2669-model) revealed no power drain issues. However, after several rounds of BIOS and kernel upgrades I have discovered that the power drain has risen to >700mWh. Having tested things a bit, I have discoved that removing ehci_hcd module solved the high power drain. This is a T43 laptop, with kernel 2.6.17-r5 and BIOS 1.28/EC 1.06. For me, issuing # modprobe -r ehci_hcd before going to sleep and reloading the module (# modprobe ehci_hcd) after waking up dropped the power drain down to 277mWh in suspend2ram, which seems fair. The unloading/reloading can be put into the suitable ACPI script called to suspend the laptop.

Wake-on-LAN

Some additional power savings can be achieved by turning off the wake-on-lan (# ethtool -s eth0 wol d). The power drain of the wol feature is far smaller than the radeon bug, but can be noticeable.