Talk:Rescue and Recovery - Revision history

Sven at 08:11, 5 May 2010

2010-05-05T08:11:34Z

Rct: /* Utilities that can read Rescue & Recovyer 4.x backups? */ new section

2009-12-08T21:45:43Z

‎Utilities that can read Rescue & Recovyer 4.x backups?: new section

Rct: /* Rescue & Recovery 4.3 not compatible with 4.2 or lower. */ new section

2009-12-08T21:41:47Z

‎Rescue & Recovery 4.3 not compatible with 4.2 or lower.: new section

Tonko at 12:25, 10 September 2009

2009-09-10T12:25:52Z

Cwr at 11:44, 30 June 2009

2009-06-30T11:44:41Z

Michaelrn20: /* Partition types with new versions */

2009-03-05T13:19:10Z

‎Partition types with new versions

Michaelrn20: /* Partition types with new versions */ new section

2009-03-05T13:11:40Z

‎Partition types with new versions: new section

Yemartin: /* Diagnostic tools only */

2008-05-11T02:49:02Z

‎Diagnostic tools only

Stabilob at 22:36, 26 March 2008

2008-03-26T22:36:31Z

Stabilob: New section: Recovering R&R partition from scratch :)

2008-03-26T22:35:34Z

New section: Recovering R&R partition from scratch :)

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	[[User:Rct\|Rct]] 21:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)		[[User:Rct\|Rct]] 21:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
		+
		+	== bmgr32.exe 4.3 is not compatible with SYSTEM_DRV ==
		+
		+	On Lenovo/W500 with windows 7 "professional" there are the following partitions.
		+
		+	* Partition Layout
		+	** Partition 1 is NTFS, active and called SYSTEM_DRV, without drive-letter, 1.1G
		+	** Partition 2 is NTFS and called Windows7_OS, c:\, 289G
		+	** Partition 3 is NTFS and called Lenovo, q:\, 10G
		+
		+	* R&R is Version 4.3
		+
		+	* Although the first partition is active and bootable with \bootmgr and a BCD store in \boot, the second partition is bootable, too. But with booting the second one directly, the Thinkvantage button will not work.
		+
		+	* After installing an other Linux/Windows you _can not_ recover the Thinkvantage-Button function with R&Rs 4.3 bmgr32.exe, because it can not find the service-partion. It only looks on NTFS-Partitions for disclabels like IBM_SERVICE or SERVICEVnnn. So SYSTEM_DRV is not valid. I tried to relabel the partition, but to no end.
		+
		+	* beware of imagex.exe for a complete factory recovery from the Lenovo-Partition files in \FactoryRecovery. It won't write the Lenovo bmgr, so the Thinkvantage button function will not be recovered.
		+
		+	* The only way I found to do a complete factory-like recovery was this one. You need your usual magic hacker skills and:
		+	** all the files from q:
		+	** your Thinkvantage Recovery CD
		+	** a partition layout like shown above
		+
		+	* if your installed Windows is without R&R 4.3, the Thinkvantage Recovery CD won't find a Windows to recover and just reboot. You will also need
		+	** a normal Microsoft Windows 7 Recovery CD (WinPE)
		+	** imagex.exe from c:\Program Files (x86)\Lenovo\Factory Recovery\imagex.exe
		+	** [http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766068(WS.10).aspx know how] to use imagex.exe
		+	** recover c:\ with imagex.exe from q:\FactoryRecovery\cdrivebackup.wim. Your installed Windows with all the applications on it will be deleted!
		+
		+	* You may create a Thinkvantage Recovery CD by using the files from the Microsoft Windows 7 Recovery CD and copy the file s:\Recovery\WindowsRE\winRE.wim into \sources\boot.wim
		+
		+	* Boot from the Thinkvantage Recovery CD and choose complete Factory Recovery. s:\ and c:\ will be recovered.
		+	* After first time booting of Windows 7, the Thinkvantage-Button Function will work again.
		+
		+	[[User:Sven\|Sven]]

	== Utilities that can read Rescue & Recovyer 4.x backups? ==		== Utilities that can read Rescue & Recovyer 4.x backups? ==

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		+	== Utilities that can read Rescue & Recovyer 4.x backups? ==
		+
		+	# Are there any known utilities that can read Rescue & Recovery 4.2 or earlier backups?
		+	# Is R&R written by IBM/Lenovo or is it software that has been OEM'd from somewhere else?

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	Will		Will
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		+	== Rescue & Recovery 4.3 not compatible with 4.2 or lower. ==
		+
		+	I think there should be a note on the article page, though I'm not sure where it should go, much of what is there is on older versions.
		+
		+	Important Notes on Rescue & Recovery 4.3 & Window 7
		+	* Rescue & Recovery 4.3 is for Windows 7 only.
		+	* R&R 4.3 can NOT read your backups from 4.2x!!
		+	* R&R 4.2 can't be installed on Windows 7.
		+	* To read 4.2 backups you need to boot into a Rescue and Recovery 4.2x environment and make copies of your files there.
		+
		+
		+	From [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-4Q2QAK.html IBM/Lenovo Rescue & Recovery 4.3 Download page]:
		+	<blockquote>
		+	* Rescue and Recovery 4.30 is designed for the Windows 7 operating system. The previous versions of the Rescue and Recovery program for Windows 2000, Windows XP or Windows Vista cannot be installed on Windows 7 operating system. Therefore, the Windows Installer does not support the over install behavior from previous versions of the Rescue and Recovery program.
		+
		+	* For Windows 2000, Windows XP or Windows Vista users: [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-73617 Download Rescue and Recovery 4.21 here]
		+
		+	* If you want to retain the ability to restore from backups created with a previous version of Rescue and Recovery, you must create a copy of your backup files on bootable, external recovery media before installing the latest version.
		+	*#. To archive your backups, complete the following procedure:
		+	# From the Rescue and Recovery main screen, click Backup, and then select Copy backups from hard drive from the drop-down list.
		+	# Select the medium you want to save your backup files to by clicking the appropriate radio button. The backup files that will be copied are listed on the user interface.
		+	# Click OK to continue
		+	*# You will need blank removable media when copying backups from the hard drive to CD or DVD. Make sure that you label each disc as it is created, and that you store them together in a safe place.
		+	# Note: You will be prompted to make the external media bootable at the beginning of the process.
		+	</blockquote>
		+
		+	[[User:Rct\|Rct]] 21:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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 "It is not known how to invoke Rescue and Recovery once GRUB has been installed in the master boot record."
-See ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/thinkvantage_en/tvtrnr3_1027en.txt, Consideration 6:
+See http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/thinkvantage_en/tvtrnr3_1027en.txt, Consideration 6:
    The Master Boot Record (MBR) must be configured properly for the
    Rescue and Recovery application to function properly.  When possible,

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	--[[User:Michaelrn20\|Michael]] 13:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)		--[[User:Michaelrn20\|Michael]] 13:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
		+
		+	== Recreating Windows 2000 Recovery Partition from scratch ==
		+
		+	I bought a T23 which had Windows 2000 on a disk image snapshot, with one partition for the whole
		+	drive, so since I wanted to use multiple partitions I had to rebuild the whole drive from scratch.
		+	I bought one of the recovery CDs off Ebay, but apparently there are two of them; finally I found
		+	a bittorrent image of the second one. The IBM-badged OS can be re-installed from the two CDs
		+	simply by booting from the first CD (the reload respects the current partition table, and doesn't
		+	wipe the whole disk); however, it was very difficult to find out what sort of partition the MBR
		+	needed to re-enable the F11 key.
		+
		+	The combination that worked in the end was formatting a 1G partition under Win 98, putting it
		+	immediately after the first, labelling it IBM_SERVICE, and making it bootable (ie. using the
		+	command: format /V:IBM_SERVICE /S under Win 98). Re-installing the MBR with the command:
		+	bmgr.exe /Fboot.bin /Mbmgr.scr then got the F11 key back onto the bootup screen, and rebooting
		+	and pressing F11 booted into Win 98.
		+
		+	It was then a matter of copying the first Recovery CDROM onto the second partition, and adding the
		+	files 3GGEL6A.CRI and 3GGEL6A.IMZ from the second partition. These last two files are the only new
		+	files on the second CDROM, and all the recovery files fitted onto a 1G partition. The Win 98
		+	autoexec.bat file was edited to call recover.bat. Resetting the second partition's type to 0x1C,
		+	rebooting, and pressing F11 then re-installed the IBM-badged Windows 2000.
		+
		+	Will

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 I believe the key difference here is not the version of R&R but the version of Windows.  Vista R&R appears to use NTFS with Vista-style imaging technology.  Windows XP R&R uses a type 12 FAT32 partition.
 I have seen this on ThinkPad T61 and T400 laptops.
---[[User:Michaelrn20|Michaelrn20]] 13:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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	stabilob		stabilob
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		+	== Partition types with new versions ==
		+
		+	There are many ToDo notes regarding the partition type with new versions of Rescue and Recovery.
		+
		+	I believe the key difference here is not the version of R&R but the version of Windows. Vista R&R appears to use NTFS with Vista-style imaging technology. Windows XP R&R uses a type 12 FAT32 partition.
		+
		+	I have seen this on ThinkPad T61 and T400 laptops.
		+	--[[User:Michaelrn20\|Michaelrn20]] 13:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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	--[[User:gsmenden\|gsmenden]] 10:50, 30 Jan 2006 (EST)		--[[User:gsmenden\|gsmenden]] 10:50, 30 Jan 2006 (EST)

		+	----
		+
		+	Given how R&R launches the hardware diagnostics, it will not work when R&R is run from the CD. It may be possible, using some advance bootloader wizardry, to load the PC-Doctor image directly from the R&R CD, but, other than for extra geek points, it is unnecessary to go through the trouble of trying to figure it out, as Lenovo now provides a bootable PC-Doctor CD image
		+	[http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-56222.html].
		+	--[[User:Yemartin\|Yemartin]] 04:49, 11 May 2008 (CEST)

	== Problems with Windows Partition ==		== Problems with Windows Partition ==

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	My drive went south so I have a new drive and just want to restore the files under My Documents, not the whole drive. When I do that on the new computer, I see the Documents and Settings folder but when I try to click on it, it says permission denied or something. I didn't restore it to the main C drive because I realized it would clash with the documents and settings folder already there, I restored it to a secondary (D) drive. How can I restore/read these files? This is R&R 4.1 on Windows XP Pro.		My drive went south so I have a new drive and just want to restore the files under My Documents, not the whole drive. When I do that on the new computer, I see the Documents and Settings folder but when I try to click on it, it says permission denied or something. I didn't restore it to the main C drive because I realized it would clash with the documents and settings folder already there, I restored it to a secondary (D) drive. How can I restore/read these files? This is R&R 4.1 on Windows XP Pro.
−
−	~~== Recovering R&R partition from scratch :) ==~~
−
−	~~Hello everybody~~
−
−	~~last time i bought T42, earlier owner has removed R&R partition :(~~
−	~~anyway i still have sticker with winxp oem key, and genuine box winxp~~
−	~~i would like to get back my R&R partition~~
−	~~i can get another T42 (or R40 or T43 or something like that) with R&R partition,~~
−	~~is there any posibility to change oem key inside that partition ?~~
−	~~i know that's not a problem to copy it, but i would like to use my key~~
−
−	~~regards~~
−	~~stabilob~~

	== Recovering R&R partition from scratch :) ==		== Recovering R&R partition from scratch :) ==

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	My drive went south so I have a new drive and just want to restore the files under My Documents, not the whole drive. When I do that on the new computer, I see the Documents and Settings folder but when I try to click on it, it says permission denied or something. I didn't restore it to the main C drive because I realized it would clash with the documents and settings folder already there, I restored it to a secondary (D) drive. How can I restore/read these files? This is R&R 4.1 on Windows XP Pro.		My drive went south so I have a new drive and just want to restore the files under My Documents, not the whole drive. When I do that on the new computer, I see the Documents and Settings folder but when I try to click on it, it says permission denied or something. I didn't restore it to the main C drive because I realized it would clash with the documents and settings folder already there, I restored it to a secondary (D) drive. How can I restore/read these files? This is R&R 4.1 on Windows XP Pro.
		+
		+	== Recovering R&R partition from scratch :) ==
		+
		+	Hello everybody
		+
		+	last time i bought T42, earlier owner has removed R&R partition :(
		+	anyway i still have sticker with winxp oem key, and genuine box winxp
		+	i would like to get back my R&R partition
		+	i can get another T42 (or R40 or T43 or something like that) with R&R partition,
		+	is there any posibility to change oem key inside that partition ?
		+	i know that's not a problem to copy it, but i would like to use my key
		+
		+	regards
		+	stabilob

	== Recovering R&R partition from scratch :) ==		== Recovering R&R partition from scratch :) ==