https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AAT24RF08Talk:AT24RF08 - Revision history2026-05-01T22:55:24ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.31.12https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:AT24RF08&diff=20661&oldid=prevHmh: endurance of the AT24RF082006-03-06T17:28:16Z<p>endurance of the AT24RF08</p>
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</table>Hmhhttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:AT24RF08&diff=20659&oldid=prevTonko at 16:54, 6 March 20062006-03-06T16:54:41Z<p></p>
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</table>Tonkohttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:AT24RF08&diff=20645&oldid=prevMmind: question on suffering eeprom2006-03-06T10:56:40Z<p>question on suffering eeprom</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>"EEPROM suffers at least two write cycles every boot" could use a bit more explanation, as I'm wondering if this is bad for the lifetime of the EEPROM or something<br />
--[[User:Mmind|Mmind]] 11:56, 6 March 2006 (CET)</div>Mmind