Talk:3Dfps - Revision history

Thinker: Broken redirect

2006-11-28T14:57:49Z

Broken redirect

Tonko: how to run instructions needed

2004-10-10T02:51:12Z

how to run instructions needed

Akw: wiki links to templates

2004-10-09T18:03:20Z

wiki links to templates

Akw: templates on dynamic page done

2004-10-09T18:02:31Z

templates on dynamic page done

Akw: dynamic benchmark table

2004-10-08T19:57:50Z

dynamic benchmark table

Wyrfel at 11:57, 29 September 2004

2004-09-29T11:57:32Z

145.254.52.170 at 11:56, 29 September 2004

2004-09-29T11:56:23Z

Nomeata at 11:25, 29 September 2004

2004-09-29T11:25:13Z

Nomeata at 23:49, 24 September 2004

2004-09-24T23:49:01Z

Akw at 23:27, 24 September 2004

2004-09-24T23:27:52Z

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	For instance I am running Fedora Core 3T2 with x.org 6.8.1 and am getting 1067 FPS with the default window size, but only 92 FPS at fullscreen.		For instance I am running Fedora Core 3T2 with x.org 6.8.1 and am getting 1067 FPS with the default window size, but only 92 FPS at fullscreen.
	This is on a T30 (2366-52U) which has a 1.8GHz P4M, running the opensource radeon driver.		This is on a T30 (2366-52U) which has a 1.8GHz P4M, running the opensource radeon driver.
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		+	== Broken redirect ==
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		+	The redirect is currently broken.
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		+	Which is just as well -- glxgears is '''not a valid benchmark'''. It was not intended to be one, and the workload it generates on modern cards is totally different from any realistic X app (heck, I get better glxgears FPS when I ''disable'' hardware acceleration). Please stop using it.
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		+	--[[User:Thinker\|Thinker]] 15:57, 28 November 2006 (CET)
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	--[[User:Akw\|akw]] 21:57, 8 Oct 2004 (CEST)		--[[User:Akw\|akw]] 21:57, 8 Oct 2004 (CEST)
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		+	== how to run instructions needed ==
		+
		+	I think we need instructions on how to run the benchmark.
		+
		+	For instance it is not clear if the benchmark should just be started from the cmdline and have it run with default window size, or if it should be resized to fullscreen.
		+
		+	For instance I am running Fedora Core 3T2 with x.org 6.8.1 and am getting 1067 FPS with the default window size, but only 92 FPS at fullscreen.
		+	This is on a T30 (2366-52U) which has a 1.8GHz P4M, running the opensource radeon driver.

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 Layout:
-* First part as a template (to be editable by the public): Template:Benchmarks_Header
+* First part as a template (to be editable by the public): [[Template:Benchmarks_Header]]
 * Dynamic database-driven table with sorting
-* Lats part as a template again (for notes): Template:Benchmarks_Footer
+* Lats part as a template again (for notes): [[Template:Benchmarks_Footer]]
-Further discussion on the new dynamic benchmark page on Template:Benchmarks_Header, please!
+Further discussion on the new dynamic benchmark page on [[Template:Benchmarks_Header]], please!
 --[[User:Akw|akw]] 21:57, 8 Oct 2004 (CEST)
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-''(for discussoin of formatting, see history -- [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]])''
+''(for discussion of formatting, see history -- [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]])''
 Shoudn't the kernel be after the driver, since I'd rather compare different kernels and same driver than different driver and same kernel? --[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 13:25, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST)
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 Suggestions are appreciated! :-)
-To be done:
+Layout:
-* First part as a template (to be editable by the public)
+* First part as a template (to be editable by the public): Template:Benchmarks_Header
 * Dynamic database-driven table with sorting
-* Lats part as a template again (for notes)
+* Lats part as a template again (for notes): Template:Benchmarks_Footer
 --[[User:Akw|akw]] 21:57, 8 Oct 2004 (CEST)
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	[[User:Wyrfel\|Wyrfel]] 13:57, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST) 13:56, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST)		[[User:Wyrfel\|Wyrfel]] 13:57, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST) 13:56, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST)
		+	----
		+	I coded a new MediaWiki Specialpage, to get the table dynamic (to be database-driven, enabling sorting and so on).
		+	It is not yet finished. Hope I will get this finished soon. The MediaWiki code is strange and rather poorly documented.
		+	Suggestions are appreciated! :-)
		+
		+	To be done:
		+	* First part as a template (to be editable by the public)
		+	* Dynamic database-driven table with sorting
		+	* Lats part as a template again (for notes)
		+
		+	--[[User:Akw\|akw]] 21:57, 8 Oct 2004 (CEST)
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 However, i'd suggest the following order: Model, Benchmark, Driver, fps, XServer, Kernel, Notes, User. This would represent the following search pattern: "Ok, i have a T41p, i'm using the fglrx driver and glxgears seems a bit slow to me, lets have a look... ahh...100 fps more...why...ahh...XServer is more recent...kernel is less recent (does that matter?)...ohh...and i should probably check my mtrr."
-[[User:145.254.52.170|145.254.52.170]] 13:56, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST)
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	Shoudn't the kernel be after the driver, since I'd rather compare different kernels and same driver than different driver and same kernel? --[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] 13:25, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST)		Shoudn't the kernel be after the driver, since I'd rather compare different kernels and same driver than different driver and same kernel? --[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] 13:25, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST)
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		+	----
		+	I think one more often compares different drivers at same kernels. Also i think that driver variation will be more than kernel variation.
		+	However, i'd suggest the following order: Model, Benchmark, Driver, fps, XServer, Kernel, Notes, User. This would represent the following search pattern: "Ok, i have a T41p, i'm using the fglrx driver and glxgears seems a bit slow to me, lets have a look... ahh...100 fps more...why...ahh...XServer is more recent...kernel is less recent (does that matter?)...ohh...and i should probably check my mtrr."
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		+	[[User:145.254.52.170\|145.254.52.170]] 13:56, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST)
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−	I [[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] ~~suggest~~	+	''(for discussoin of formatting, see history -- [[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]])''

−	*Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)	+	Shoudn't the kernel be after the driver, since I'd rather compare different kernels and same driver than different driver and same kernel? --[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] 13:25, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST)
−	**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )
−	***Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )
−
−	~~Since you most likely want to compare results of same hardware and benchmark than yours.~~
−
−	~~--[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]]~~
−	~~----~~
−	~~I think so, too. Obviously~~ the ~~goal of fps comparison is to find out~~ the ~~best configuration for a specific model.~~
−
−	~~--[[User:Akw\|akw]] 00:22~~, ~~25 Sep 2004 (CEST)~~
−	~~----~~
−
−	~~done it~~
−	~~--[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] 00:31, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)~~
−
−	~~----~~
−	I ~~had it like this in the beginning.~~
−
−	~~But i thought about splitting it into single pages and then this order would mean a lot of single pages. So i turned it around, because:~~
−
−	~~Testapplication -> Driver ---link---> TestAppDriverPage -> ThinkpadModel is a hirarchy with a low number of single pages (All models for one TestApp-Driver-combination on one page).~~
−
−	~~But you are right, it makes more sense from the comparison point of view to put the drivers in the end.~~
−
−	~~Shell we split into separate pages anyway? And if so, on the Model level or on the testapp level?~~
−
−	~~[[User:Wyrfel\|Wyrfel]]~~
−
−	~~----~~
−	~~Not before it is not too full~~
−
−	~~Or just use a tabluar format, sorted this way, for example:~~
−
−	~~{\| border="1"~~
−	~~\|+ Benchmark results~~
−	\|-
−	~~! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver !! fps !! User and Notes~~
−	\|-
−	~~\| T41p [[2373-GHG]] \|\| fgl_glxgears \|\| radeon \|\| 259fps \|\| [[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]]~~ '~~'vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''~~
−	\|-
−	~~\| T41p [[2373-GHG]] \|\| glxgears \|\| radeon \|\| 1209fps \|\| [[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''~~
−	\|}
−
−	~~--[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] 00:44, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)~~
−	~~----~~
−
−	~~I prefer the tabular way, it makes a lot of sense here.~~
−
−	~~[[User:Wyrfel\|Wyrfel]] 00:55, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)~~
−
−	~~----~~
−	~~Done~~
−
−	~~--[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] 00:57, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)~~
−	~~----~~
−	~~Maybe it would be also interesting which version of X~~ and ~~fglrx was running while benchmarking. I noticed some discussion about the new fglrx ver. 12 being somewhat slower~~ than ~~older versions~~ and ~~so on.~~
−
−	~~--[[User:Akw\|akw]] 01:10, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)~~
−
−	~~----~~
−	~~Sure, but then we need a way to shorten the notes. For example, Just put "''no mtrr''" in there and explain it below the table~~
−	--[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] ~~01:19, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)~~
−	~~----~~
−	~~Good idea!~~
−
−	~~--[[User:Akw\|akw]] 01~~:~~27,~~ 25 ~~Sep 2004 (CEST)~~
−	~~----~~
−	~~Done it. It wraps the lines here~~, ~~but that's ok~~
−
−	~~--[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] 01:49, 25~~ Sep 2004 (CEST)

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	--[[User:Akw\|akw]] 01:27, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)		--[[User:Akw\|akw]] 01:27, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)
		+	----
		+	Done it. It wraps the lines here, but that's ok
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		+	--[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] 01:49, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)

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	Sure, but then we need a way to shorten the notes. For example, Just put "''no mtrr''" in there and explain it below the table		Sure, but then we need a way to shorten the notes. For example, Just put "''no mtrr''" in there and explain it below the table
	--[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] 01:19, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)		--[[User:Nomeata\|Nomeata]] 01:19, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)
		+	----
		+	Good idea!
		+
		+	--[[User:Akw\|akw]] 01:27, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)