Problems with SATA and Linux - Revision history

ThinkGNU: You're installing more than just Linux. Linux is only a kernel and therefore it is repetitive to write kernel and the point is in fact the version of Linux. Can't work out the template problem.

2025-10-27T03:06:02Z

You're installing more than just Linux. Linux is only a kernel and therefore it is repetitive to write kernel and the point is in fact the version of Linux. Can't work out the template problem.

Tonko at 19:16, 14 June 2009

2009-06-14T19:16:31Z

Jdthood: /* No swapping of UltraBay device */

2009-02-16T04:13:13Z

‎No swapping of UltraBay device

Jdthood: /* No swapping of UltraBay device */

2009-02-16T04:12:50Z

‎No swapping of UltraBay device

Bugmenot1: /* No DMA on system hard disk */

2008-09-27T22:06:48Z

‎No DMA on system hard disk

Thinker: Deleted (really, this time). In recent Linux kernels ata_piix supports both ATAPI and hotswap.

2008-08-01T00:55:29Z

Deleted (really, this time). In recent Linux kernels ata_piix supports both ATAPI and hotswap.

Thinker: /* DVD drive not recognized */ Deleted. In recent Linux kernels ata_piix supports both ATAPI and hotswap.

2008-08-01T00:54:42Z

‎DVD drive not recognized: Deleted. In recent Linux kernels ata_piix supports both ATAPI and hotswap.

Akw: /* DVD drive not recognized */

2008-07-27T13:07:34Z

‎DVD drive not recognized

Tonko: /* CompactFlash module doesn't work */

2008-03-06T13:58:50Z

‎CompactFlash module doesn't work

Zaphod: /* Spurious NCQ completions */

2008-01-04T09:54:47Z

‎Spurious NCQ completions

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-Some ThinkPad models use an [[Intel ICH6-M]] SATA/PATA controller for the system hard disk. This causes several complications for Linux installation. The following lists these problems and known workarounds. Note that the details are often version- and distribution-specific.
+Some ThinkPad models use an [[Intel ICH6-M]] SATA/PATA controller for the system hard disk. This causes several complications for GNU/Linux installation. The following lists these problems and known workarounds. Note that the details are often version- and distribution-specific.
 {{HINT|The information on this page is outdated. As long as you have a fairly recent distribution with kernel 2.6.19 or newer, none of the issues described here apply}}
 ===Models using a SATA disk interface===
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 ==Hang on resume from suspend to RAM==
-Linux kernels prior to 2.6.16 (ata_piix) and 2.6.19 (ahci) do not support suspend and resume for SATA devices. As a result, the machine hangs upon the first disk access after resume. A kernel patch ([http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/5/2/46 LKML posting]) fixes this by adding SATA power management support.
+Linux versions prior to 2.6.16 (ata_piix) and 2.6.19 (ahci) do not support suspend and resume for SATA devices. As a result, the machine hangs upon the first disk access after resume. A kernel patch ([http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/5/2/46 LKML posting]) fixes this by adding SATA power management support.
 Kernel 2.6.16 and later fixes this problem for most systems. The Thinkpad T60 and X60s still need some patches to get resume working using 2.6.16, see [[Talk:Problems with SATA and Linux#Patch against SATA-resume problem with T60|here]]. The T60p resumes properly with 2.6.17-rc6, the T60 and X60 should also.  You need to enable ata_piix and disable AHCI in the bios. The latest fedora (FC5) 2.6.17 kernel seems to have fixed the resume problem on the T60p, still need to disable AHCI though. Applying [http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/rpms/kernel/FC-5/linux-2.6-console-suspend.patch this FC5 patch] makes suspend-to-ram work with AHCI enabled.
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 ==No DMA on system hard disk==
-In recent Linux kernels, there are two modules capable of handling the ICH6 disk controller:
+In recent Linux versions, there are two modules capable of handling the ICH6 disk controller:
 * <tt>ata_piix</tt>: the disk shows as {{path|/dev/sda}} and DMA is enabled.
 * Generic IDE driver (<tt>ide-disk</tt>): the disk shows as {{path|/dev/hda}} and DMA is disabled.
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 ==No swapping of UltraBay device==
-The <tt>ata_piix</tt> driver in mainline Linux kernels supports hot-swapping and warm-swapping of PATA and SATA devices. This requires kernel 2.6.18 or newer (with older kernels, you must power off the laptop before swapping such devices). See [[How to hotswap Ultrabay devices#When_using_the_ata_piix_driver|How to hotswap Ultrabay devices]] for further information.
+The <tt>ata_piix</tt> driver in mainline Linux supports hot-swapping and warm-swapping of PATA and SATA devices. This requires kernel 2.6.18 or newer (with older kernels, you must power off the laptop before swapping such devices). See [[How to hotswap Ultrabay devices#When_using_the_ata_piix_driver|How to hotswap Ultrabay devices]] for further information.
 Swapping of the [[Ultrabay Slim Battery]] works out-of-the box.
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 ==BIOS error 2010 on user-installed hard disk==
-While not a Linux issue, note that there is an issue with installing alternative PATA (IDE) hard disks as the system drive. Unless the disk is one of the few approved disks listed inside the BIOS, you will get an BIOS error 2010 during system boot, and the disk may operate unreliably. See [[Problem with non-ThinkPad hard disks]].
+There is an issue with installing alternative PATA (IDE) hard disks as the system drive (this has nothing to do with Linux). Unless the disk is one of the few approved disks listed inside the BIOS, you will get an BIOS error 2010 during system boot, and the disk may operate unreliably. See [[Problem with non-ThinkPad hard disks]].
 ==CompactFlash module doesn't work==
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 ==Spurious NCQ completions==
-It was initially thought the HDD firmware support for NCQ was buggy ([http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/6/15 LKML posting] and [http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/6/195 LKML posting]).
+It was initially thought the HDD controller software support for NCQ was buggy ([http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/6/15 LKML posting] and [http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/6/195 LKML posting]).
 It was later found that it was a driver misinterpretation and there is no hardware problem ([http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/26012 newsgroup posting]).
 If you have an old kernel and get some warnings about spurious NCQ completions, you can safely ignore them. You are advised, anyway, to upgrade to a recent kernel.

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 Some ThinkPad models use an [[Intel ICH6-M]] SATA/PATA controller for the system hard disk. This causes several complications for Linux installation. The following lists these problems and known workarounds. Note that the details are often version- and distribution-specific.
+{{HINT|The information on this page is outdated. As long as you have a fairly recent distribution with kernel 2.6.19 or newer, none of the issues described here apply}}
 ===Models using a SATA disk interface===
 Models using a SATA controller and a SATA system disk:

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 The <tt>ata_piix</tt> driver in mainline Linux kernels supports hot-swapping and warm-swapping of PATA and SATA devices. This requires kernel 2.6.18 or newer (with older kernels, you must power off the laptop before swapping such devices). See [[How to hotswap Ultrabay devices#When_using_the_ata_piix_driver|How to hotswap Ultrabay devices]] for further information.
-Swapping of the [[UltraBay Slim Battery]] works out-of-the box.
+Swapping of the [[Ultrabay Slim Battery]] works out-of-the box.
 ==BIOS error 2010 on user-installed hard disk==

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 ==No swapping of UltraBay device==
-The <tt>ata_piix</tt> driver in mainline Linux kernels supports hot-swapping and warm-swapping of PATA and SATA devices. This requires kernel 2.6.18 or newer (with older kernels, you must power off the laptop before swapping such devices). See [[How_to_hotswap_UltraBay_devices#When_using_the_ata_piix_driver|How_to_hotswap_UltraBay_devices]] for further information.
+The <tt>ata_piix</tt> driver in mainline Linux kernels supports hot-swapping and warm-swapping of PATA and SATA devices. This requires kernel 2.6.18 or newer (with older kernels, you must power off the laptop before swapping such devices). See [[How to hotswap Ultrabay devices#When_using_the_ata_piix_driver|How to hotswap Ultrabay devices]] for further information.
 Swapping of the [[UltraBay Slim Battery]] works out-of-the box.

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 (Observed on a ThinkPad T43 with Fedora Core kernel 2.6.13-1.1526_FC4.)
 (Observed on a ThinkPad X40 with Debian kernel 2.6.18-4-686.) [[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 20:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 ==No SMART support==

← Older revision		Revision as of 00:55, 1 August 2008
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	Suspend to disk (using [[swsusp]] or [[Software Suspend 2]]) needs to load the memory image from the SATA disk. For this to work, you either need an initrd with all the necessary SATA modules, or the SATA drivers compiled into the kernel.		Suspend to disk (using [[swsusp]] or [[Software Suspend 2]]) needs to load the memory image from the SATA disk. For this to work, you either need an initrd with all the necessary SATA modules, or the SATA drivers compiled into the kernel.
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−	~~==DVD drive not recognized==~~
−
−	~~The following applies only to old Linux kernels~~
−
−	The <tt>ata_piix</tt> SATA driver grabs ownership over the IDE ports when it is loaded, but (by default) does not support PATA ATAPI devices such as the Ultrabay optical drives. Thus, if the <tt>ide</tt> driver is compiled as a module and loaded after <tt>ata_piix</tt>, the DVD drive will not be recognized by either driver.
−
−	~~Either of the following configurations will work:~~
−	* For kernel 2.6.14 and newer: enable ATAPI support in the SATA system using {{bootparm\|libata.atapi_enabled\|1}} (see below; this is experimental) (note this is not needed for more recent kernels)
−	* Compile IDE into the kernel (non-module).
−	* Compile both IDE and SATA as modules and make sure IDE is loaded first (the module is called 'ide_generic').
−
−	~~{{NOTE\|The optical drive must be in the Ultrabay during system boot (Ultrabay device swapping is currently unsupported).}}~~

	==No DMA on DVD drive==		==No DMA on DVD drive==

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	==DVD drive not recognized==		==DVD drive not recognized==
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		+	The following applies only to old Linux kernels

	The <tt>ata_piix</tt> SATA driver grabs ownership over the IDE ports when it is loaded, but (by default) does not support PATA ATAPI devices such as the Ultrabay optical drives. Thus, if the <tt>ide</tt> driver is compiled as a module and loaded after <tt>ata_piix</tt>, the DVD drive will not be recognized by either driver.		The <tt>ata_piix</tt> SATA driver grabs ownership over the IDE ports when it is loaded, but (by default) does not support PATA ATAPI devices such as the Ultrabay optical drives. Thus, if the <tt>ide</tt> driver is compiled as a module and loaded after <tt>ata_piix</tt>, the DVD drive will not be recognized by either driver.

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 * Compile both IDE and SATA as modules and make sure IDE is loaded first (the module is called 'ide_generic').
-Note that the optical drive must be in the Ultrabay during system boot (Ultrabay device swapping is currently unsupported).
+{{NOTE|The optical drive must be in the Ultrabay during system boot (Ultrabay device swapping is currently unsupported).}}
 ==No DMA on DVD drive==

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 Normally, PATA disks can be replaced with a solid-state [[CompactFlash]] module using a cheap PATA-to-CompactFlash adapter. However, there is a [http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/22400 report] that replacing the system disk with CompactFlash fails on a ThinkPad {{X41}}, possibly due to the SATA-to-PATA bridge. If so, the problem would probably occur also on the {{X41T}}, {{T43}}, {{T43p}} and {{R52}}.
 I (KotCzarny) can confirm that {{X41T}} has this issue. READ is OK, but every attempt to do a WRITE results in timeouts as listed in gmane report. A quick and dirty workaround is to use generic ide driver (not sata one) to disable DMA. You won't get high speeds but at least it will work.
 ==RHEL3.0 Update 7 on T60p==