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Category talk:T43

2005-06-25T00:06:13Z

Qubit: PATA

After some more investigation into the SATA vs PATA issue, I have come to the conslusion that while the controller is SATA, that it is using PATA passthrough, so the actual disk is still PATA, but you need Linux SATA drivers.

Tonko

Yes, so if you wanted to buy a hard drive to replace it, you'd have to get a PATA hard drive. This page suggests that people who want to upgrade will need a new hard drive that is SATA-native. Imagine the ruckus that this description can be causing to a current T4x/p user who already has an upgraded PATA hard drive (or want to use their current 7k60) seeing this page; they will be under the impression that their upgrade will not function with their T43/p purchase. Granted, T43/p's might not accept this upgrade because new BIOS'es simply do not allow them (the reason specifically being that the T43/p machines use a PATA <-> SATA bridge chip; cite: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?p=79779&highlight=#79779), but I think you should still clearly indicate that the hard drive is PATA native.

Your comment about the TABOOK.pdf referring that the hard drive is most definitely SATA; I see no text of this anywhere. The optical drive's connection is out question; the interface it uses is clearly independent of the hard drive's interface. Another way to verify this: take your hard drive's model and search it under its manufacturer's site. It will most definitely list your hard drive as ATA-6, an IDE/PATA drive. (And if it starts with HTS, then it's definitely ATA-6; HGST only has 2.5" TravelStars that are SATA-native on their 100GB drives, which Thinkpads do not even come with.)

Linux implements ICH6 (the PATA/SATA chipset) within the SATA driver, so my second modification, "40, 60 or 80GB PATA HDD (using ICH6/SATA drivers on linux)" is the best way to go. It also does not infer that the drive appears SATA on Windows, because it doesn't; it says IDE in the device tree, which correctly indicates that hard drive is a PATA device.

Hopefully awaiting your consensus.

Qubit

Category:T43

2005-06-23T03:25:49Z

Qubit: /* Features */

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=== ThinkPad T43 ===
This pages gives an overview of all ThinkPad T43 related topics.
==== Features ====
* Intel Pentium M 1.6, 1.73, 1.86 or 2.0GHz CPU
* One of the following graphics adapters:
** [[Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900]]
** [[ATI Mobility Radeon X300]] with 64MB
* One of the following displays:
** 14.1" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution
** 14.1" TFT display with 1400x1050 resolution
** 15.0" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution
** 15.0" TFT display with 1400x1050 resolution
* 256 or 512MB memory standard
* 40, 60 or 80GB PATA HDD (using ICH6/SATA drivers on linux)
* AD1981B AC'97 Audio controller
* [[Ethernet Controllers|Broadcom 10/100/1000 Ethernet]]
* [[UltraBay|UltraBay Slim]] with one of the following:
** DVD-ROM
** DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo
** DVDÂ±RW
* CDC slot with one of the following:
** [[IBM Integrated 56K Modem (MDC-2)]]
** [[IBM Integrated Bluetooth IV with 56K Modem (BMDC-3)]]
* MiniPCI slot with one of the following:
** none (empty)
** [[IBM 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II]]
** [[Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Mini-PCI Adapter]]
** [[Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Mini-PCI Adapter]]
* [[Embedded Security Subsystem|IBM Embedded Security Subsystem 2.0]]
* IBM Active Protection System
* [[Integrated Fingerprint Reader]] on select systems
* [[UltraNav]] (TrackPoint / Touchpad combo)
</div>
|style="vertical-align:top" |
[[Image:ThinkpadT43P.JPG|ThinkPad T43]]
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* [ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/27r0700.pdf ThinkPad T43/p - Hardware Maintenance Manual (January 2005)] (4,534,423 Bytes)

[[Category:Models]]

Category:T43p

2005-06-23T03:25:08Z

Qubit:

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=== ThinkPad T43p ===
This pages gives an overview of all ThinkPad T43p related topics.
==== Features ====
* Intel Pentium M 1.86, 2.0 or 2.13GHz CPU
* [[ATI Mobility FireGL V3200]] with 128MB
** 14.1" TFT display with 1400x1050 resolution
** 15.0" TFT display with 1600x1200 resolution
* 512MB or 1GB memory standard
* 60 or 80GB PATA HDD (using ICH6/SATA drivers on linux)
* AD1981B AC'97 Audio controller
* [[Ethernet Controllers|Broadcom 10/100/1000 Ethernet]]
* [[UltraBay|UltraBay Slim]] with one of the following:
** DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo
** DVDÂ±RW
* CDC slot with one of the following:
** [[IBM Integrated 56K Modem (MDC-2)]]
** [[IBM Integrated Bluetooth IV with 56K Modem (BMDC-3)]]
* MiniPCI slot with one of the following:
** [[IBM 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II]]
** [[Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Mini-PCI Adapter]]
** [[Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Mini-PCI Adapter]]
* Single Type I CardBus slot and Single ExpressCard slot
* [[Embedded Security Subsystem|IBM Embedded Security Subsystem 2.0]]
* IBM Active Protection System
* [[Integrated Fingerprint Reader]] on select systems
* [[UltraNav]] (TrackPoint / Touchpad combo)
</div>
|style="vertical-align:top" |
[[Image:ThinkpadT43P.JPG|ThinkPad T43p]]
|}
* [ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/27r0700.pdf ThinkPad T43/p - Hardware Maintenance Manual (January 2005)] (4,534,423 Bytes)

[[Category:Models]]

Category:T43p

2005-06-22T03:05:01Z

Qubit: /* Features */

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=== ThinkPad T43p ===
This pages gives an overview of all ThinkPad T43p related topics.
==== Features ====
* Intel Pentium M 1.86, 2.0 or 2.13GHz CPU
* [[ATI Mobility FireGL V3200]] with 128MB
** 14.1" TFT display with 1400x1050 resolution
** 15.0" TFT display with 1600x1200 resolution
* 512MB or 1GB memory standard
* 60 or 80GB PATA HDD
* AD1981B AC'97 Audio controller
* [[Ethernet Controllers|Broadcom 10/100/1000 Ethernet]]
* [[UltraBay|UltraBay Slim]] with one of the following:
** DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo
** DVDÂ±RW
* CDC slot with one of the following:
** [[IBM Integrated 56K Modem (MDC-2)]]
** [[IBM Integrated Bluetooth IV with 56K Modem (BMDC-3)]]
* MiniPCI slot with one of the following:
** [[IBM 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II]]
** [[Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Mini-PCI Adapter]]
** [[Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Mini-PCI Adapter]]
* Single Type I CardBus slot and Single ExpressCard slot
* [[Embedded Security Subsystem|IBM Embedded Security Subsystem 2.0]]
* IBM Active Protection System
* [[Integrated Fingerprint Reader]] on select systems
* [[UltraNav]] (TrackPoint / Touchpad combo)
</div>
|style="vertical-align:top" |
[[Image:ThinkpadT43P.JPG|ThinkPad T43p]]
|}
* [ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/27r0700.pdf ThinkPad T43/p - Hardware Maintenance Manual (January 2005)] (4,534,423 Bytes)

[[Category:Models]]

Category:T43

2005-06-22T03:04:47Z

Qubit: /* Features */

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<div style="margin: 0; margin-right:10px; border: 1px solid #dfdfdf; padding: 0em 1em 1em 1em; background-color:#F8F8FF; align:right;">
=== ThinkPad T43 ===
This pages gives an overview of all ThinkPad T43 related topics.
==== Features ====
* Intel Pentium M 1.6, 1.73, 1.86 or 2.0GHz CPU
* One of the following graphics adapters:
** [[Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900]]
** [[ATI Mobility Radeon X300]] with 64MB
* One of the following displays:
** 14.1" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution
** 14.1" TFT display with 1400x1050 resolution
** 15.0" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution
** 15.0" TFT display with 1400x1050 resolution
* 256 or 512MB memory standard
* 40, 60 or 80GB PATA HDD
* AD1981B AC'97 Audio controller
* [[Ethernet Controllers|Broadcom 10/100/1000 Ethernet]]
* [[UltraBay|UltraBay Slim]] with one of the following:
** DVD-ROM
** DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo
** DVDÂ±RW
* CDC slot with one of the following:
** [[IBM Integrated 56K Modem (MDC-2)]]
** [[IBM Integrated Bluetooth IV with 56K Modem (BMDC-3)]]
* MiniPCI slot with one of the following:
** none (empty)
** [[IBM 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II]]
** [[Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Mini-PCI Adapter]]
** [[Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Mini-PCI Adapter]]
* [[Embedded Security Subsystem|IBM Embedded Security Subsystem 2.0]]
* IBM Active Protection System
* [[Integrated Fingerprint Reader]] on select systems
* [[UltraNav]] (TrackPoint / Touchpad combo)
</div>
|style="vertical-align:top" |
[[Image:ThinkpadT43P.JPG|ThinkPad T43]]
|}
* [ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/27r0700.pdf ThinkPad T43/p - Hardware Maintenance Manual (January 2005)] (4,534,423 Bytes)

[[Category:Models]]

Problem with fan noise

2005-06-21T22:32:38Z

Qubit: /* always on problem: */

Information about the fan noise problem in Thinkpad models from 2003/2004.

==Problem description==

There seem to be two different occurances of the problem (or two different problems).

===acceleration problem:===
The Thinkpad Fan accelerates in regular intervals, making an annoying noise.

===always on problem:===
The Fan is always on, even though the processor is rather cool.

==Affected Models==

===acceleration problem:===
*Thinkpad {{T40}}, {{T40p}}, {{T41}}, {{T42}}(?)

===always on problem:===
*Thinkpad {{T40}}, {{T40p}}, {{T41}}, {{T41p}}, {{T42}}, {{T42p}}, {{T43}}, {{T43p}}
*Thinkpad {{R32}}, {{R50}}, {{R50p}}, {{R51}}, {{R52}}
*Thinkpad {{X40}}
*Thinkpad {{A31p}}
*Thinkpad {{770X}}

==Affected Operating Systems==

===acceleration problem:===
*Linux, all flavours

===always on problem:===
*Linux, all flavours
*FreeBSD 5.3
*Windows XP
*Windows 2000 pro

==Status==

===acceleration problem:===
IBM released an update to the embedded controller program that seems to at least partially solve this problem:

Version 3.03 - 1RHT70WW
NOTE: This version of Embedded Controller Program will only work with BIOS Version 3.06f (or higher).
* (Fix) Reduced Fan noise in some models.

The update can be found here: http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-50279

===always on problem:===
The problem is yet unsolved. But see the partial fix below.

IBM made a statement regarding this on their homepage:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-56504.html

It seems that it's a feature of centrino - http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2004-September/019737.html
Perhaps it's fixable by adding the fans and temps to the dsdt?

==Solutions==

===acceleration problem:===

====Replacing the fan====
Some people reported that they replaced the original fan against one of a similar notebook without the problem has worked for them, i.e. changing a {{T41}}s fan against one from a {{T41p}}.

====BIOS upgrade====
You can try upgrading your embedded controller program to version 3.03 or newer.

The update can be found here: http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-50279

===always on problem:===

It seems like for some people a combination of enabling dynamic frequency scaling and using the most recent radeon drivers (from xorg 6.8.x) with the DynamicClocks option enabled helped lowing the fan rotation and hence making it more quiet.

Also the fglrx driver from ATI is said to show the same effect when used together with dynamic frequency scaling.

On a 770X the fan can be fully controlled through ACPI. Thermal Zone THM5 (possibly the battery/charging circuit, it's definitely warmer when using 5v PCMCIA cards and AC) triggers it to turn on and not ever off by design. Can be solved by a custom DSDT, which also makes use of the variable-speed features of the fan (will release this once I've finished tweaking and testing it).

I can confirm that on my R51, the graphics card seems to be the problem. The fan keeps running most of the time even with AC on, but even though I activated DynamicClocks (with the radeon driver), I can see in /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal that the GPU (4th value) is at 52-53Â°. The fan stops running as soon as the temperature gets down to 50 degrees and starts again at 53. While debugging, I seemed(!) to be able to reduce the temperature together with the resolution (e.g. "xrandr -s 2" to get from 1400x1050 to 1024x768) or by switching off the graphics with "xset dpms force off". The bottom line is that the below "partial fix" won't work because the GPU temperature is the problem.

====partial fix:====
{{WARN|This circumvents the BIOS fan control, so be careful and use at your own risk! Don't toast your ThinkPad.}}

When loading [[ibm-acpi]] v0.11 with experimental switch (modprobe ibm_acpi experimental=1), it is possible to read and write the status of fan:

'''#cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan'''
status: enabled
speed: 3580
commands: enable, disable

'''#echo disable > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan'''

'''cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan'''
status: disabled
speed: 0
commands: enable, disable

But the fan will then '''never''' wake up. So, we need a [[ACPI fan control script|small script]] witch is constantly checking the temperature and setting the fan on/off when needed.