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Category talk:X60s

2006-11-17T10:26:05Z

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There's a review of the X60 over at ArsTechnica ( http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/x60.ars/ ), stating that the X60s actually boasts an 1.8" harddrive. Can anyone clear things up for me, is this correct information, or bogus?

== Which Modem ==

Hello

Could somebody please tell me which modem (chipset) is used in the X60s?

Thanks

Uwe Brauer

Category talk:X60s

2006-11-17T10:25:39Z

Oub: Which Modem

There's a review of the X60 over at ArsTechnica ( http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/x60.ars/ ), stating that the X60s actually boasts an 1.8" harddrive. Can anyone clear things up for me, is this correct information, or bogus?

== Which Modem ==

Hello

Could somebody please tell me which modem (chipset) is used in the X60s?

Thanks

Uwe Brauer

Problem with video output switching

2006-07-11T12:06:55Z

Oub: /* Problems with Intel chipsets */

==Affected Models==
*ThinkPad {{T40}}, {{T40p}}, {{T41}}, {{T41p}}, {{T42}}, {{T42p}}, {{T43}}, {{T43p}}
*ThinkPad {{X23}}, {{X41}}

==Problem Description==
It is not possible, using the FN-F7 key, to switch between the LCD and the external monitor in the following way
LCD --> external Monitor--> both -->LCD
however ''cloning'' is possible for the Intel chipsets, see below.

===Problems with Intel chipsets===
Disabling the internal LCD (e.g. when using an external Monitor) doesn't seem to work reliably.

* For Xorg 7.022 one can clone the LCD display to an external monitor, adding the following lines to the Device section in the xorg.conf file:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic Video Card"
Driver "i810"
Option "Clone" "true"
Option "MonitorLayout" "CRT,LFP"
however you can not switch between these screens as described above, once you use FN-F7 the cloned display is lost.

* i810switch doesn't have any effect. After disabling the LCD it is still on (but the status display of i810switch claims that is is switched off).

* i855crt works see: http://stefan.desire.ch/howto/x41debian/ for details.

* With [[ibm-acpi]], {{cmdroot|echo lcd_disable >/proc/acpi/ibm/video}} works, but {{cmdroot|echo lcd_enable >/proc/acpi/ibm/video}} doesn't work - so one can't enable it anymore after disabling it. (the strange thing is that when switching to a console with {{key|ctrl}}{{key|alt}}{{key|F1}} the LCD display is used for it, so there must be some way to enable it but I can't find out how to control this in X). I've tried this with version 0.8 and version 0.11 of [[ibm-acpi]].

===Problems with ATI chipsets===
*It is a [http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2000 known issue] of xorgs radeon driver that {{key|Fn}}{{key|F7}} doesn't work.

You can force the <tt>radeon</tt> driver to enable both CRT and LCD using <tt>Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,CRT"</tt> in the <tt>"Device"</tt> section of {{path|/etc/X11/xorg.conf}}. The analogous option for [[fglrx]] is <tt>Option "ForceMonitors" "lvds,crt1"</tt>

The {{cmdroot|radeontool light off}} and {{cmdroot|radeontool dac off}} commands will disable the LCD and CRT if they're been enabled before in the X server, but the corresponding {{cmdroot|radeontool light on}} and {{cmdroot|radeontool dac on}} will not work if the displays have were not enabled when the X server started. Also note that turing off the CRT using this command will not reduce power consumption, nor allow [[fglrx]] to enable power saving modes.

You might try the following: Hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to a console, hit Fn+F7 to switch video, hit Ctrl+Alt+F7 to switch back to X.

==Related Links==
*https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2000

==Solutions==
None (yet).

Problem with video output switching

2006-07-11T12:05:55Z

Oub: /* Problem Description */

Talk:Problem with video output switching

2006-07-11T11:58:46Z

Oub: /* Describe the problem (cloning) */

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I have found a solution for switching back to LCD with the Intel Cards on my X40. But it semms a bit strange to me so maybe someone can confirm that it also works on other Thinkpads (mine is a X41) and setups before I edit that wiki entry.

If i do echo lcd_enable,crt_disable > /proc/acpi/ibm/video after enabling crt i get to see the screen on both lcd and crt although scrambled on crt. After executing it the second time i get lcd only. So for now i always execute that command twice.

==Describe the problem (cloning) ==
Hello

I suggest to describe the problem a little more in detail. Moreover, cloning, that is to have the display on both screens the external and the LCD, is possible.
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:57, 11 July 2006 (CEST):

Talk:Problem with video output switching

2006-07-11T11:57:52Z

Oub: Cloning

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I have found a solution for switching back to LCD with the Intel Cards on my X40. But it semms a bit strange to me so maybe someone can confirm that it also works on other Thinkpads (mine is a X41) and setups before I edit that wiki entry.

If i do echo lcd_enable,crt_disable > /proc/acpi/ibm/video after enabling crt i get to see the screen on both lcd and crt although scrambled on crt. After executing it the second time i get lcd only. So for now i always execute that command twice.

==Describe the problem (cloning) ==
Hello

I suggest to describe the problem a little in detail moreover, cloning, that is to have the display on both screens the external and the LCD is possible.
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:57, 11 July 2006 (CEST):

Talk:Installation on ThinkPads without CD-ROM drive

2006-03-28T15:15:56Z

Oub: which X41 models allow booting from a USB stick

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I created this article by putting together pieces of information from other sources, accompanied by what i remember from my various installation experiences. But i don't really have experience in any of the proposed procedures myself. So feel free to correct anything that's wrong or extend the article.

Thanks, [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 17:36, 9 Jul 2005 (CEST).
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==PXE ==
For PXE to work, you need to have a ThinkPad with integrated ethernet. I think PXE is supported on all such ThinkPads, but am not 100% sure.<br>
If you have Ethernet without PXE, you could use an [http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/ Etherboot] or [http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ nbgrub] floppy to network boot.

For USB, you could also use a USB attached CD-ROM drive, or possibly even a USB memorykey, assuming the machine is recent enough that it has USB.
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Thanks for the hints. Added some statements that i hope can avoid some misunderstandings (USB). About PXE we'll have to find out. ;-) Also I'd like to get some definitive information about PCMCIA boot support in ThinkPads. It seems my TransNote supports this in general, but not with the HP burner i connected, while neither my X20 nor my T41p showed any option to boot from a CF card in a CF-to-PCMCIA converter.
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i still have problem with ntldr, anyway if i put harddrive from my HP laptop with preinstalled Windows XP, system boots up perfectly.

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Did you read [[How to setup boot loaders]]? What exactly is your problem? [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 21:14, 30 Oct 2005 (CET)
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I added a segment on installing via PXE, using Windows as a server, based on my recent experience doing just that on my Transnote. I hope it's helpful; it's my first-ever Wiki submission, I tried to make it fit with the rest of the page.

[[User:YakkoWarner|YakkoWarner]] 17:53, 16 Nov 2005 (CET)

==Which models allow booting from a USB Stick ==
Especially which X41 models? Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:15, 28 March 2006 (CEST):

ThinkPad X4 Dock

2006-03-28T15:12:23Z

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{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" border="0"
| style="vertical-align:top;" | __TOC__
[[image:ThinkPadX4Dock.gif|ThinkPad X4 Dock]]
| style="vertical-align:top;" | <div style="margin: 0; margin-right:10px; border: 1px solid #dfdfdf; padding: 0em 1em 1em 1em; background-color:#F8F8FF; align:right;">
== ThinkPad X4 Dock ==
The ThinkPad X4 Dock (Model 2506) is a dock for the X40, X41 and X41 Tablet ThinkPads providing extra ports as well as a bay for an optical drive and a set of stereo speakers. Containing a full featured [[UltraBay|UltraBay Slim]] slot, it provides flexibility in drive choice.

Unlike the [[UltraBase X4]] this Dock is not meant to be carried around with the ThinkPad.

=== Features ===
* Passthrough ports:
** Ethernet (RJ45)
** Modem (RJ11)
** USB (three ports)
** [[VGA Port|VGA]]
** [[Serial Port|Serial (DB9-M)]]
** [[Parallel Port|Parallel (DB25-F)]]
** [[PS/2 Port|Combined PS/2 Mouse + Keyboard]]
* UltraBay Slim
* Stereo speakers
* Fru Number: '''73P4530'''
* Price: around 240 Euros

===Pros & Cons===
* Positives: Expansion capability
* Negatives: not compatible with the UltraBay Slim Battery, no DVI out
* Compatibility: {{X40}}, {{X41}}, {{X41T}}
* Warranty: Three Years
</div>
|}

==UltraBay Slim==
The UltraBay Slim slot in this dock is a full featured one and supports hot swapping with all UltraBay Slim drives. It is not however compatible with the UltraBay Slim battery.

ThinkPad X4 UltraBase

2006-03-28T15:10:12Z

Oub: Add Fru Number and Price

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" border="0"
| style="vertical-align:top;" | __TOC__
[[image:UltraBaseX4.gif|UltraBase X4]]
| style="vertical-align:top;" | <div style="margin: 0; margin-right:10px; border: 1px solid #dfdfdf; padding: 0em 1em 1em 1em; background-color:#F8F8FF; align:right;">
== IBM UltraBase X4 ==
The IBM UltraBase X4 is a portable dock for the X40 and X41 ThinkPads providing extra ports as well as a bay for an optical drive and a set of stereo speakers. Containing a full featured [[UltraBay|UltraBay Slim]] slot, it provides flexibility in drive choice as well as the option of a secondary battery for extended working time on the road. The UltraBase X4 doesn't provide a second docking port as the original [[UltraBase]] did, hence you can't dock the UltraBase to any of the other docking solutions.

=== Features ===
* Passthrough ports:
** Ethernet (RJ45)
** Modem (RJ11)
** USB (three ports)
** [[VGA Port|VGA]]
** [[Serial Port|Serial (DB9-M)]]
** [[Parallel Port|Parallel (DB25-F)]]
** [[PS/2 Port|Combined PS/2 Mouse + Keyboard]]
* Ultrabay Slim
* Stereo speakers
* Kensington security hole
* Fru Number: '''92P3429'''
* Price: around 187 Euros

===Pros & Cons===
* Positives: Expansion capability, portable
* Negatives: makes the ThinkPad quite thick, no extra docking port, not compatible with the [[:Category:X41 Tablet|X41 Tablet]]
* Compatibility: {{X40}}, {{X41}}
* Warranty: Three Years
</div>
|}

==UltraBay Slim==
The UltraBay Slim slot in this dock is a full featured one and supports hot swapping with all UltraBay Slim drives. You can also feed it with the UltraBay Slim battery pack to extend the overall battery life time.

Talk:ThinkPad X4 Dock

2006-03-28T13:56:50Z

Oub: CDROM included

==X4Doc and CDROM ==

Hello

I asked that question already for the UltraBay: From the photo which is included it seems to me that a CDROM is included in that bay. Can somebody please confirm this and tell me which sort of CD it is? Thanks

[[User:Oub|Oub]] 15:56, 28 March 2006 (CEST):

Talk:ThinkPad X4 UltraBase

2006-03-28T13:54:30Z

Oub: Ultra Base and CDROM

i notice that text saying that the X4 ultrabase is not compatible with the x41 tablet.
Its greatly disappointing if true.
I was curious if this has been verified?
If so, what is the problem? physical fit? electronic? other?
(is it salvageable?)

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The X4 UltraBase is not compatible with the X41 Tablet as mentioned in the article.

Instead your supposed to use the [[ThinkPad X4 Dock]] instead.

I cannot comment on the physical differences.

--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 04:35, 12 Dec 2005 (CET)

== thanks for the update ==

I couldnt find that on the IBM site, so thats why i asked.
thats a shame, the ultrabase would really make life better with the tablet.

==CD-RW (DVD-R) included ==

Hello

From the photo which is included it seems to me that a CDROM is included in that bay. Can somebody please confirm this and tell me which sort of CD it is?
Thanks

[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:02, 26 March 2006 (CEST):

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The UltraBay is normally empty when you order the UltraBase X4. It will ship with just a blank filler to keep dirt/dust out.

If you want an optical drive, you can order one of the available [[UltraBay Devices#UltraBay Slim Devices|UltraBay Slim Devices]] for use with the UltraBase X4.

--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 22:28, 26 March 2006 (CEST)

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:thanks for your rapid answer. That looks like an expensive issue, 230 Euros for the UltraBay and 200 for the CD-ROM. Do you know by change whether the situation is the same for the X4Doc? Does it have a CDROM included?
:thanks
:[[User:Oub|Oub]] 15:54, 28 March 2006 (CEST):

Talk:ThinkPad X4 UltraBase

2006-03-26T15:02:48Z

Oub: CDROM included

Talk:Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Mini-PCI Adapter

2006-03-23T17:46:28Z

Oub: ip2200

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hi,
I had problems to get the driver to work with access connections on a X41.
With the latest IBM driver (9.0.2.31) it only worked in the open mode.

The solution is downloading the intel driver (9.0.3.9) and install it complete.
This will also install the "intelpro set wireless"
Install access connections again and it will work.
SvE

==Linux ==

Hello

Could anybody please confirm that the ipw2200 driver works for that card?
Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 18:46, 23 March 2006 (CET):

Talk:How to get special keys to work

2006-03-06T19:28:11Z

Oub: using an external editor

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The xmodmap step doesn't seem to work when using the "kdb" driver of xorg. Here are the changes I needed to make to my setup to get the "back" and "forward" keys to work (in diff -u format);

--- xkb/symbols/inet.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:04.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/symbols/inet 2005-03-08 19:59:32.587636120 +0100
@@ -1875,6 +1875,16 @@
key <I76> { [ XF86AudioLowerVolume ] };
};

+// IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys
+
+partial alphanumeric_keys
+xkb_symbols "tp41" {
+ name[Group1]= "IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys";
+
+ key <I69> { [ F22 ] };
+ key <I6A> { [ F21 ] };
+};
+
// Trust

partial alphanumeric_keys<br>

--- xkb/rules/xorg.lst.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg.lst 2005-03-07 20:55:21.000000000 +0100
@@ -97,6 +97,7 @@
sven SVEN Ergonomic 2500
symplon Symplon PaceBook (tablet PC)
toshiba_s3000 Toshiba Satellite S3000
+ tp41 IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys
trust Trust Wireless Keyboard Classic
trustda Trust Direct Access Keyboard
yahoo Yahoo! Internet Keyboard

--- xkb/rules/xorg.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg 2005-03-07 20:45:59.000000000 +0100
@@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
qtronix \
samsung4500 samsung4510 \
sk1300 sk2500 sk6200 sk7100 \
- sven symplon toshiba_s3000 trust trustda yahoo
+ sven symplon toshiba_s3000 tp41 trust trustda yahoo

! model = symbols
$inetkbds = +inet(%m)

--- xkb/rules/xorg.xml.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg.xml 2005-03-07 20:52:35.000000000 +0100
@@ -975,6 +975,13 @@
</model>
<model>
<configItem>
+ <name>tp41</name>
+ <description>IBM Thinkpad 41 Internet Keys</description>
+ <description xml:lang="nl">IBM ThinkPad 41 internet toetsen</description>
+ </configItem>
+ </model>
+ <model>
+ <configItem>
<name>trust</name>
<description>Trust Wireless Keyboard Classic</description>
<description xml:lang="fr">clavier classique Trust Wireless</description>

Do not forget to add something like "+inet(tp41)" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
(...)
Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl+inet(tp41)"
(...)

== Not T41 specific ==

These keys are hardly T41 specific, they can also be found on the T30, T40, T42 and I'm sure several other ThinkPads in the X, R and G lineup.

Actually, the above patches could be completed with the information of the other special keys found on some Thinkpads (which is listed in [[How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#xmodmap_configuration]]) and submitted as a request for enhancement with [http://bugs.freedesktop.org xorg's bugzilla]. However, firefox doesn't yet recognize keysyms like XF86Back, XF86Forward, so then firefox still needs to be patched manually (unless an enhancement is requested for firefox too).

== Fake ACPI events? ==

Not all keys generate ACPI events. Maybe it is feasible to have the ibm-acpi module check the CMOS (instead of having tpb checking /dev/nvram) and generate fake ACPI events for those keys. Even if it is feasible, that is probably way to hacky for a kernel module ... Still, it would be nice to only have to use scripts triggered by ACPI events and not both scripts for ACPI events and scripts for tpb.

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I think something like this is possible with ibm-acpi 0.10 already. It provides a proc file from which you can derive a table of CMOS states. You'd only have to figure the who is who of CMOS bits and write a daemon (or daemon like shell script) checking them regularly. This should be about what you suggest since tpb does the same thing with the bios ram. Of course generating ACPI events can not be done like that (or can it?), but you could trigger the ACPI action scripts directly then.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 01:02, 14 Mar 2005 (CET)
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It may be possible (I have a 770x, so don't have the special keys) to add the keys as real ACPI events, by altering the DSDT. I've done this to enable ACPI events for Fn-(every labelled F key),Home,End,PgUp,PgDn on mine, and they aren't labelled with anything physically (no thinklight and physical brightness control). The Embedded Controller reports all events, including keys, by calling one of the _Qxx functions (you'll find a whole pile in the sourcecode for the DSDT). If you then insert a fucntion in the same scope as the others like:-
Method (_Q12, 0, NotSerialized) { \_SB.HKEY.MHKQ (0x1003) } //Fn-F3
when executed, ibm-acpi will then report an acpi event numbered 0x0001003. You should find some functions, e.g. _Q1B For Fn-F12 identical to this.

I found some IBM DSDT's had functions that made MKHQ calls for EC functions _Q63, _Q64, _Q4E, _Q4F, but did nothing on mine---maybe these are a good starting point. Add a whole pile, and see if you get lucky! (At your own risk, of course... :/ But it should be pretty safe).

Yes, the above sounds pretty identical to tpb, except with /proc/ibm/ecdump instead of /dev/nvram. The above works very nicely, however there's luck involved in finding the right number, even if it exists!

[[User:lentinj|lentinj]]

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Fn+F6 does not seem to generate an event on t41p even if the mask is set to 0xffff and experimental=1 is passed to ibm_acpi
[[User:tf|tf]]

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==Bind Fn to super or hyper ==

Hello

Is it possible to bind Fn via Xmodmap to a key modifier such as hyper or super? Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:14, 6 February 2006 (CET):
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I doubt it. The event for the {{key|Fn}} key is generated at release (as opposed to holding it where it serves it's usual special function). Hence you can't use it as a modifier. [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 22:52, 6 February 2006 (CET)
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==Bind Fn 12 say to F34 ==
Thanks Wyrfel for your reply, in order to display my question better, I use a new header: can I bind all the Fn Fx to hay F34 and the like?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 21:33, 10 February 2006 (CET):
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You can do this with all key '''combinations''' that support xmodmap (see the table). That means you can't do it with {{key|Fn}}}{{key|F12}}, because that combination doesn't generate a key event at all (it only generates an APM/ACPI event. Hence there is nothing vor xmodmap to remap.

But what is your wider focus goal? I'm sure that what you want to do can be realized, anyway: You can write an ACPI script and event file for {{key|Fn}}{{key|F12}} and have the script start some tool that sends a F34 key to the X server. I'm sure this is possible.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:03, 11 February 2006 (CET)
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==Can't bind Fn 12 ==

Hello

I am using a R51 and I have compiled ibm-acpi monolithic in the kernel (not as module, maybe this is a mistake?). Anyway, I am using
suspend2, which I compiled in the kernel as well. Now I have bound
''to hibernate '' first to Fn 4, with the following script
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate

This works fine. Now I want to do the same for Fn12, so following the key table I did:

event=button[/] ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate

But that does not work. What is the problem? I tried even
echo enable,0xffff >/proc/acpi/ibm/hotkey
without success. Can anybody help me?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 16:27, 4 March 2006 (CET):
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The proper event line is
event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
.

Also, make sure that you are not using [thinkpad-acpi]. If <tt>event=button[ /]sleep</tt> works for {{key|Fn}}{{key|F4}}, that indicates that you do. It might block the ibm-acpi driver. Check your kernel config and disable any thinkpad acpi driver except ibm-acpi.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 21:58, 4 March 2006 (CET)
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:Hello
:
:It is odd, I am pretty sure, that I do not use [thinkpad-acpi], but [ibm-acpi], although event=button[ /]sleep works for FnF4, in any case I found out that
:
: event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
:
:Works! What do you think of adding a subsection to the [[How to get special keys to work]] page, with some examples, like the following:
:
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/battery'':
event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
action=/usr/local/sbin/hibernate
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/lid''
event=button/lid
action=/usr/local/bin/mysleepram
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn''
event=(button/sleep|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004)
action=/usr/local/bin/mysleepram
:
:(Also ''event=button/sleep '' works for me)
:and then restart acpi:
:
/etc/init.d/acpid restart
:
:[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:22, 5 March 2006 (CET):
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What you do with
event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
is to make a logical nonexclusive OR between
event=button/power
and
event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
. If the first works, the whole thing works. So that's pretty logical.

Please, do a {{cmdroot|dmesg <nowiki>|</nowiki> grep thinkpad-acpi}} and do a {{cmdroot|dmesg <nowiki>|</nowiki> ibm-acpi}}. What is the output in either case?

I see no sense in putting examples to the page that only confuse people because they are not correct. ibm-acpi generates the events listed in the table and nothing else. If you get something like <tt>button/sleep</tt> it's not ibm-acpi generating it. You are running Debian, right? Let's hope they didn't patch the driver to generate different events.

Also, you can always do {{cmdroot|tail -f /var/log/acpid}} to have a life view of the generated events.

I am pretty sure that you are using thinkpad-acpi or - if not so - that something else must interfere.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 04:49, 6 March 2006 (CET)

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:Hi
:
:Ok I admit everything is very odd. For the start, I seem to use
:ibm-acpi. As I said I am Debian, but I compiled my own kernel :(2.6.10)(but not as a module, maybe this was a bad idee??) and I used :the ibm-acpi driver which comes shipped with that kernel. I did not :download the driver from the official http://ibm-acpi.sourceforge.net/ :site. Here is the output of
:
:dmesg | grep acpi
Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/hda6 acpi_sleep=s3_bios
tbxface-0118 [02] acpi_load_tables : ACPI Tables successfully acquired
evxfevnt-0094 [03] acpi_enable : Transition to ACPI mode successful
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [df6ddaa8]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c1464768]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c1467328]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c146bba8]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c146b628]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c146b3e8]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c146b268]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c146dde8]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c1470d68]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c1470568]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c14719a8]
ibm_acpi: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras v0.8
ibm_acpi: http://ibm-acpi.sf.net/
acpi_bus-0081 [08] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c1467328]
ibm_acpi: dock device not present

:I don't understand the errors but anyway. Now the odd thing is that indeed the following works
:
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/hibernate
:but
event=button[/]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/hibernate

:Does not work. But from what you said, using the ibm_acpi neither of '''these strings ''' should work? So I don't understand what is going on. [[User:Oub|Oub]] 20:28, 6 March 2006 (CET):

==Turn on/off Wifi on Fn5 ==
Hi

I hope this is the last question. I use a crude way to activate and deactivate my wificard: I remove and insert the relevant modules, with 2 simple scripts. Now the question is how can I bind Fn5 so, that it turns on and off the wificard? With my approach I need to fire up two scripts, and that I cannot bind to one button. Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:57, 5 March 2006 (CET):

Try a {{cmdroot|cat /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth}}. Maybe it returns the state. If not, the other way would be to check if the USB bluetooth controller device is listed in {{path|/proc/bus/usb}} somewhere. It shouldn't be there if bluetooth is switched off and should be there if it is on.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 04:49, 6 March 2006 (CET)
----

Talk:How to get special keys to work

2006-03-06T19:27:13Z

Oub: using an external editor

__TOC__

The xmodmap step doesn't seem to work when using the "kdb" driver of xorg. Here are the changes I needed to make to my setup to get the "back" and "forward" keys to work (in diff -u format);

--- xkb/symbols/inet.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:04.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/symbols/inet 2005-03-08 19:59:32.587636120 +0100
@@ -1875,6 +1875,16 @@
key <I76> { [ XF86AudioLowerVolume ] };
};

+// IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys
+
+partial alphanumeric_keys
+xkb_symbols "tp41" {
+ name[Group1]= "IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys";
+
+ key <I69> { [ F22 ] };
+ key <I6A> { [ F21 ] };
+};
+
// Trust

partial alphanumeric_keys<br>

--- xkb/rules/xorg.lst.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg.lst 2005-03-07 20:55:21.000000000 +0100
@@ -97,6 +97,7 @@
sven SVEN Ergonomic 2500
symplon Symplon PaceBook (tablet PC)
toshiba_s3000 Toshiba Satellite S3000
+ tp41 IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys
trust Trust Wireless Keyboard Classic
trustda Trust Direct Access Keyboard
yahoo Yahoo! Internet Keyboard

--- xkb/rules/xorg.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg 2005-03-07 20:45:59.000000000 +0100
@@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
qtronix \
samsung4500 samsung4510 \
sk1300 sk2500 sk6200 sk7100 \
- sven symplon toshiba_s3000 trust trustda yahoo
+ sven symplon toshiba_s3000 tp41 trust trustda yahoo

! model = symbols
$inetkbds = +inet(%m)

--- xkb/rules/xorg.xml.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg.xml 2005-03-07 20:52:35.000000000 +0100
@@ -975,6 +975,13 @@
</model>
<model>
<configItem>
+ <name>tp41</name>
+ <description>IBM Thinkpad 41 Internet Keys</description>
+ <description xml:lang="nl">IBM ThinkPad 41 internet toetsen</description>
+ </configItem>
+ </model>
+ <model>
+ <configItem>
<name>trust</name>
<description>Trust Wireless Keyboard Classic</description>
<description xml:lang="fr">clavier classique Trust Wireless</description>

Do not forget to add something like "+inet(tp41)" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
(...)
Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl+inet(tp41)"
(...)

== Not T41 specific ==

These keys are hardly T41 specific, they can also be found on the T30, T40, T42 and I'm sure several other ThinkPads in the X, R and G lineup.

Actually, the above patches could be completed with the information of the other special keys found on some Thinkpads (which is listed in [[How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#xmodmap_configuration]]) and submitted as a request for enhancement with [http://bugs.freedesktop.org xorg's bugzilla]. However, firefox doesn't yet recognize keysyms like XF86Back, XF86Forward, so then firefox still needs to be patched manually (unless an enhancement is requested for firefox too).

== Fake ACPI events? ==

Not all keys generate ACPI events. Maybe it is feasible to have the ibm-acpi module check the CMOS (instead of having tpb checking /dev/nvram) and generate fake ACPI events for those keys. Even if it is feasible, that is probably way to hacky for a kernel module ... Still, it would be nice to only have to use scripts triggered by ACPI events and not both scripts for ACPI events and scripts for tpb.

----
I think something like this is possible with ibm-acpi 0.10 already. It provides a proc file from which you can derive a table of CMOS states. You'd only have to figure the who is who of CMOS bits and write a daemon (or daemon like shell script) checking them regularly. This should be about what you suggest since tpb does the same thing with the bios ram. Of course generating ACPI events can not be done like that (or can it?), but you could trigger the ACPI action scripts directly then.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 01:02, 14 Mar 2005 (CET)
----

It may be possible (I have a 770x, so don't have the special keys) to add the keys as real ACPI events, by altering the DSDT. I've done this to enable ACPI events for Fn-(every labelled F key),Home,End,PgUp,PgDn on mine, and they aren't labelled with anything physically (no thinklight and physical brightness control). The Embedded Controller reports all events, including keys, by calling one of the _Qxx functions (you'll find a whole pile in the sourcecode for the DSDT). If you then insert a fucntion in the same scope as the others like:-
Method (_Q12, 0, NotSerialized) { \_SB.HKEY.MHKQ (0x1003) } //Fn-F3
when executed, ibm-acpi will then report an acpi event numbered 0x0001003. You should find some functions, e.g. _Q1B For Fn-F12 identical to this.

I found some IBM DSDT's had functions that made MKHQ calls for EC functions _Q63, _Q64, _Q4E, _Q4F, but did nothing on mine---maybe these are a good starting point. Add a whole pile, and see if you get lucky! (At your own risk, of course... :/ But it should be pretty safe).

Yes, the above sounds pretty identical to tpb, except with /proc/ibm/ecdump instead of /dev/nvram. The above works very nicely, however there's luck involved in finding the right number, even if it exists!

[[User:lentinj|lentinj]]

----

Fn+F6 does not seem to generate an event on t41p even if the mask is set to 0xffff and experimental=1 is passed to ibm_acpi
[[User:tf|tf]]

----

==Bind Fn to super or hyper ==

Hello

Is it possible to bind Fn via Xmodmap to a key modifier such as hyper or super? Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:14, 6 February 2006 (CET):
----
I doubt it. The event for the {{key|Fn}} key is generated at release (as opposed to holding it where it serves it's usual special function). Hence you can't use it as a modifier. [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 22:52, 6 February 2006 (CET)
----
==Bind Fn 12 say to F34 ==
Thanks Wyrfel for your reply, in order to display my question better, I use a new header: can I bind all the Fn Fx to hay F34 and the like?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 21:33, 10 February 2006 (CET):
----
You can do this with all key '''combinations''' that support xmodmap (see the table). That means you can't do it with {{key|Fn}}}{{key|F12}}, because that combination doesn't generate a key event at all (it only generates an APM/ACPI event. Hence there is nothing vor xmodmap to remap.

But what is your wider focus goal? I'm sure that what you want to do can be realized, anyway: You can write an ACPI script and event file for {{key|Fn}}{{key|F12}} and have the script start some tool that sends a F34 key to the X server. I'm sure this is possible.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:03, 11 February 2006 (CET)
----
==Can't bind Fn 12 ==

Hello

I am using a R51 and I have compiled ibm-acpi monolithic in the kernel (not as module, maybe this is a mistake?). Anyway, I am using
suspend2, which I compiled in the kernel as well. Now I have bound
''to hibernate '' first to Fn 4, with the following script
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate

This works fine. Now I want to do the same for Fn12, so following the key table I did:

event=button[/] ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate

But that does not work. What is the problem? I tried even
echo enable,0xffff >/proc/acpi/ibm/hotkey
without success. Can anybody help me?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 16:27, 4 March 2006 (CET):
----
The proper event line is
event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
.

Also, make sure that you are not using [thinkpad-acpi]. If <tt>event=button[ /]sleep</tt> works for {{key|Fn}}{{key|F4}}, that indicates that you do. It might block the ibm-acpi driver. Check your kernel config and disable any thinkpad acpi driver except ibm-acpi.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 21:58, 4 March 2006 (CET)
----

:Hello
:
:It is odd, I am pretty sure, that I do not use [thinkpad-acpi], but [ibm-acpi], although event=button[ /]sleep works for FnF4, in any case I found out that
:
: event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
:
:Works! What do you think of adding a subsection to the [[How to get special keys to work]] page, with some examples, like the following:
:
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/battery'':
event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
action=/usr/local/sbin/hibernate
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/lid''
event=button/lid
action=/usr/local/bin/mysleepram
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn''
event=(button/sleep|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004)
action=/usr/local/bin/mysleepram
:
:(Also ''event=button/sleep '' works for me)
:and then restart acpi:
:
/etc/init.d/acpid restart
:
:[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:22, 5 March 2006 (CET):
----
What you do with
event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
is to make a logical nonexclusive OR between
event=button/power
and
event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
. If the first works, the whole thing works. So that's pretty logical.

Please, do a {{cmdroot|dmesg <nowiki>|</nowiki> grep thinkpad-acpi}} and do a {{cmdroot|dmesg <nowiki>|</nowiki> ibm-acpi}}. What is the output in either case?

I see no sense in putting examples to the page that only confuse people because they are not correct. ibm-acpi generates the events listed in the table and nothing else. If you get something like <tt>button/sleep</tt> it's not ibm-acpi generating it. You are running Debian, right? Let's hope they didn't patch the driver to generate different events.

Also, you can always do {{cmdroot|tail -f /var/log/acpid}} to have a life view of the generated events.

I am pretty sure that you are using thinkpad-acpi or - if not so - that something else must interfere.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 04:49, 6 March 2006 (CET)

----

:Hi
:
:Ok I admit everything is very odd. For the start, I seem to use
:ibm-acpi. As I said I am Debian, but I compiled my own kernel :(2.6.10)(but not as a module, maybe this was a bad idee??) and I used :the ibm-acpi driver which comes shipped with that kernel. I did not :download the driver from the official http://ibm-acpi.sourceforge.net/ :site. Here is the output of
:
:dmesg | grep acpi
Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/hda6 acpi_sleep=s3_bios
tbxface-0118 [02] acpi_load_tables : ACPI Tables successfully acquired
evxfevnt-0094 [03] acpi_enable : Transition to ACPI mode successful
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [df6ddaa8]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c1464768]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c1467328]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c146bba8]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c146b628]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c146b3e8]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c146b268]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c146dde8]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c1470d68]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c1470568]
acpi_bus-0081 [06] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c14719a8]
ibm_acpi: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras v0.8
ibm_acpi: http://ibm-acpi.sf.net/
acpi_bus-0081 [08] acpi_bus_get_device : Error getting context for object [c1467328]
ibm_acpi: dock device not present

:I don't understand the errors but anyway. Now the odd thing is that indeed the following works
:
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/hibernate
:but
event=button[/]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/hibernate

:Does not work. But from what you said, using the ibm_acpi that should not work? So I don't understand what is going on. [[User:Oub|Oub]] 20:27, 6 March 2006 (CET):

==Turn on/off Wifi on Fn5 ==
Hi

I hope this is the last question. I use a crude way to activate and deactivate my wificard: I remove and insert the relevant modules, with 2 simple scripts. Now the question is how can I bind Fn5 so, that it turns on and off the wificard? With my approach I need to fire up two scripts, and that I cannot bind to one button. Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:57, 5 March 2006 (CET):

Try a {{cmdroot|cat /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth}}. Maybe it returns the state. If not, the other way would be to check if the USB bluetooth controller device is listed in {{path|/proc/bus/usb}} somewhere. It shouldn't be there if bluetooth is switched off and should be there if it is on.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 04:49, 6 March 2006 (CET)
----

Talk:How to get special keys to work

2006-03-05T16:57:09Z

Oub: using an external editor

__TOC__

The xmodmap step doesn't seem to work when using the "kdb" driver of xorg. Here are the changes I needed to make to my setup to get the "back" and "forward" keys to work (in diff -u format);

--- xkb/symbols/inet.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:04.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/symbols/inet 2005-03-08 19:59:32.587636120 +0100
@@ -1875,6 +1875,16 @@
key <I76> { [ XF86AudioLowerVolume ] };
};

+// IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys
+
+partial alphanumeric_keys
+xkb_symbols "tp41" {
+ name[Group1]= "IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys";
+
+ key <I69> { [ F22 ] };
+ key <I6A> { [ F21 ] };
+};
+
// Trust

partial alphanumeric_keys<br>

--- xkb/rules/xorg.lst.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg.lst 2005-03-07 20:55:21.000000000 +0100
@@ -97,6 +97,7 @@
sven SVEN Ergonomic 2500
symplon Symplon PaceBook (tablet PC)
toshiba_s3000 Toshiba Satellite S3000
+ tp41 IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys
trust Trust Wireless Keyboard Classic
trustda Trust Direct Access Keyboard
yahoo Yahoo! Internet Keyboard

--- xkb/rules/xorg.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg 2005-03-07 20:45:59.000000000 +0100
@@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
qtronix \
samsung4500 samsung4510 \
sk1300 sk2500 sk6200 sk7100 \
- sven symplon toshiba_s3000 trust trustda yahoo
+ sven symplon toshiba_s3000 tp41 trust trustda yahoo

! model = symbols
$inetkbds = +inet(%m)

--- xkb/rules/xorg.xml.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg.xml 2005-03-07 20:52:35.000000000 +0100
@@ -975,6 +975,13 @@
</model>
<model>
<configItem>
+ <name>tp41</name>
+ <description>IBM Thinkpad 41 Internet Keys</description>
+ <description xml:lang="nl">IBM ThinkPad 41 internet toetsen</description>
+ </configItem>
+ </model>
+ <model>
+ <configItem>
<name>trust</name>
<description>Trust Wireless Keyboard Classic</description>
<description xml:lang="fr">clavier classique Trust Wireless</description>

Do not forget to add something like "+inet(tp41)" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
(...)
Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl+inet(tp41)"
(...)

== Not T41 specific ==

These keys are hardly T41 specific, they can also be found on the T30, T40, T42 and I'm sure several other ThinkPads in the X, R and G lineup.

Actually, the above patches could be completed with the information of the other special keys found on some Thinkpads (which is listed in [[How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#xmodmap_configuration]]) and submitted as a request for enhancement with [http://bugs.freedesktop.org xorg's bugzilla]. However, firefox doesn't yet recognize keysyms like XF86Back, XF86Forward, so then firefox still needs to be patched manually (unless an enhancement is requested for firefox too).

== Fake ACPI events? ==

Not all keys generate ACPI events. Maybe it is feasible to have the ibm-acpi module check the CMOS (instead of having tpb checking /dev/nvram) and generate fake ACPI events for those keys. Even if it is feasible, that is probably way to hacky for a kernel module ... Still, it would be nice to only have to use scripts triggered by ACPI events and not both scripts for ACPI events and scripts for tpb.

----
I think something like this is possible with ibm-acpi 0.10 already. It provides a proc file from which you can derive a table of CMOS states. You'd only have to figure the who is who of CMOS bits and write a daemon (or daemon like shell script) checking them regularly. This should be about what you suggest since tpb does the same thing with the bios ram. Of course generating ACPI events can not be done like that (or can it?), but you could trigger the ACPI action scripts directly then.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 01:02, 14 Mar 2005 (CET)
----

It may be possible (I have a 770x, so don't have the special keys) to add the keys as real ACPI events, by altering the DSDT. I've done this to enable ACPI events for Fn-(every labelled F key),Home,End,PgUp,PgDn on mine, and they aren't labelled with anything physically (no thinklight and physical brightness control). The Embedded Controller reports all events, including keys, by calling one of the _Qxx functions (you'll find a whole pile in the sourcecode for the DSDT). If you then insert a fucntion in the same scope as the others like:-
Method (_Q12, 0, NotSerialized) { \_SB.HKEY.MHKQ (0x1003) } //Fn-F3
when executed, ibm-acpi will then report an acpi event numbered 0x0001003. You should find some functions, e.g. _Q1B For Fn-F12 identical to this.

I found some IBM DSDT's had functions that made MKHQ calls for EC functions _Q63, _Q64, _Q4E, _Q4F, but did nothing on mine---maybe these are a good starting point. Add a whole pile, and see if you get lucky! (At your own risk, of course... :/ But it should be pretty safe).

Yes, the above sounds pretty identical to tpb, except with /proc/ibm/ecdump instead of /dev/nvram. The above works very nicely, however there's luck involved in finding the right number, even if it exists!

[[User:lentinj|lentinj]]

----

Fn+F6 does not seem to generate an event on t41p even if the mask is set to 0xffff and experimental=1 is passed to ibm_acpi
[[User:tf|tf]]

----

==Bind Fn to super or hyper ==

Hello

Is it possible to bind Fn via Xmodmap to a key modifier such as hyper or super? Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:14, 6 February 2006 (CET):
----
I doubt it. The event for the {{key|Fn}} key is generated at release (as opposed to holding it where it serves it's usual special function). Hence you can't use it as a modifier. [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 22:52, 6 February 2006 (CET)
----
==Bind Fn 12 say to F34 ==
Thanks Wyrfel for your reply, in order to display my question better, I use a new header: can I bind all the Fn Fx to hay F34 and the like?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 21:33, 10 February 2006 (CET):
----
You can do this with all key '''combinations''' that support xmodmap (see the table). That means you can't do it with {{key|Fn}}}{{key|F12}}, because that combination doesn't generate a key event at all (it only generates an APM/ACPI event. Hence there is nothing vor xmodmap to remap.

But what is your wider focus goal? I'm sure that what you want to do can be realized, anyway: You can write an ACPI script and event file for {{key|Fn}}{{key|F12}} and have the script start some tool that sends a F34 key to the X server. I'm sure this is possible.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:03, 11 February 2006 (CET)
----
==Can't bind Fn 12 ==

Hello

I am using a R51 and I have compiled ibm-acpi monolithic in the kernel (not as module, maybe this is a mistake?). Anyway, I am using
suspend2, which I compiled in the kernel as well. Now I have bound
''to hibernate '' first to Fn 4, with the following script
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate

This works fine. Now I want to do the same for Fn12, so following the key table I did:

event=button[/] ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate

But that does not work. What is the problem? I tried even
echo enable,0xffff >/proc/acpi/ibm/hotkey
without success. Can anybody help me?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 16:27, 4 March 2006 (CET):
----
The proper event line is
event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
.

Also, make sure that you are not using [thinkpad-acpi]. If <tt>event=button[ /]sleep</tt> works for {{key|Fn}}{{key|F4}}, that indicates that you do. It might block the ibm-acpi driver. Check your kernel config and disable any thinkpad acpi driver except ibm-acpi.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 21:58, 4 March 2006 (CET)
----

:Hello
:
:It is odd, I am pretty sure, that I do not use [thinkpad-acpi], but [ibm-acpi], although event=button[ /]sleep works for FnF4, in any case I found out that
:
: event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
:
:Works! What do you think of adding a subsection to the [[How to get special keys to work]] page, with some examples, like the following:
:
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/battery'':
event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
action=/usr/local/sbin/hibernate
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/lid''
event=button/lid
action=/usr/local/bin/mysleepram
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn''
event=(button/sleep|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004)
action=/usr/local/bin/mysleepram
:
:(Also ''event=button/sleep '' works for me)
:and then restart acpi:
:
/etc/init.d/acpid restart
:
:[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:22, 5 March 2006 (CET):

==Turn on/off Wifi on Fn5 ==
Hi

I hope this is the last question. I use a crude way to activate and deactivate my wificard: I remove and insert the relevant modules, with 2 simple scripts. Now the question is how can I bind Fn5 so, that it turns on and off the wificard? With my approach I need to fire up two scripts, and that I cannot bind to one button. Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:57, 5 March 2006 (CET):

Talk:How to get special keys to work

2006-03-05T16:56:46Z

Oub: using an external editor

__TOC__

The xmodmap step doesn't seem to work when using the "kdb" driver of xorg. Here are the changes I needed to make to my setup to get the "back" and "forward" keys to work (in diff -u format);

--- xkb/symbols/inet.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:04.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/symbols/inet 2005-03-08 19:59:32.587636120 +0100
@@ -1875,6 +1875,16 @@
key <I76> { [ XF86AudioLowerVolume ] };
};

+// IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys
+
+partial alphanumeric_keys
+xkb_symbols "tp41" {
+ name[Group1]= "IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys";
+
+ key <I69> { [ F22 ] };
+ key <I6A> { [ F21 ] };
+};
+
// Trust

partial alphanumeric_keys<br>

--- xkb/rules/xorg.lst.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg.lst 2005-03-07 20:55:21.000000000 +0100
@@ -97,6 +97,7 @@
sven SVEN Ergonomic 2500
symplon Symplon PaceBook (tablet PC)
toshiba_s3000 Toshiba Satellite S3000
+ tp41 IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys
trust Trust Wireless Keyboard Classic
trustda Trust Direct Access Keyboard
yahoo Yahoo! Internet Keyboard

--- xkb/rules/xorg.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg 2005-03-07 20:45:59.000000000 +0100
@@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
qtronix \
samsung4500 samsung4510 \
sk1300 sk2500 sk6200 sk7100 \
- sven symplon toshiba_s3000 trust trustda yahoo
+ sven symplon toshiba_s3000 tp41 trust trustda yahoo

! model = symbols
$inetkbds = +inet(%m)

--- xkb/rules/xorg.xml.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg.xml 2005-03-07 20:52:35.000000000 +0100
@@ -975,6 +975,13 @@
</model>
<model>
<configItem>
+ <name>tp41</name>
+ <description>IBM Thinkpad 41 Internet Keys</description>
+ <description xml:lang="nl">IBM ThinkPad 41 internet toetsen</description>
+ </configItem>
+ </model>
+ <model>
+ <configItem>
<name>trust</name>
<description>Trust Wireless Keyboard Classic</description>
<description xml:lang="fr">clavier classique Trust Wireless</description>

Do not forget to add something like "+inet(tp41)" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
(...)
Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl+inet(tp41)"
(...)

== Not T41 specific ==

These keys are hardly T41 specific, they can also be found on the T30, T40, T42 and I'm sure several other ThinkPads in the X, R and G lineup.

Actually, the above patches could be completed with the information of the other special keys found on some Thinkpads (which is listed in [[How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#xmodmap_configuration]]) and submitted as a request for enhancement with [http://bugs.freedesktop.org xorg's bugzilla]. However, firefox doesn't yet recognize keysyms like XF86Back, XF86Forward, so then firefox still needs to be patched manually (unless an enhancement is requested for firefox too).

== Fake ACPI events? ==

Not all keys generate ACPI events. Maybe it is feasible to have the ibm-acpi module check the CMOS (instead of having tpb checking /dev/nvram) and generate fake ACPI events for those keys. Even if it is feasible, that is probably way to hacky for a kernel module ... Still, it would be nice to only have to use scripts triggered by ACPI events and not both scripts for ACPI events and scripts for tpb.

----
I think something like this is possible with ibm-acpi 0.10 already. It provides a proc file from which you can derive a table of CMOS states. You'd only have to figure the who is who of CMOS bits and write a daemon (or daemon like shell script) checking them regularly. This should be about what you suggest since tpb does the same thing with the bios ram. Of course generating ACPI events can not be done like that (or can it?), but you could trigger the ACPI action scripts directly then.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 01:02, 14 Mar 2005 (CET)
----

It may be possible (I have a 770x, so don't have the special keys) to add the keys as real ACPI events, by altering the DSDT. I've done this to enable ACPI events for Fn-(every labelled F key),Home,End,PgUp,PgDn on mine, and they aren't labelled with anything physically (no thinklight and physical brightness control). The Embedded Controller reports all events, including keys, by calling one of the _Qxx functions (you'll find a whole pile in the sourcecode for the DSDT). If you then insert a fucntion in the same scope as the others like:-
Method (_Q12, 0, NotSerialized) { \_SB.HKEY.MHKQ (0x1003) } //Fn-F3
when executed, ibm-acpi will then report an acpi event numbered 0x0001003. You should find some functions, e.g. _Q1B For Fn-F12 identical to this.

I found some IBM DSDT's had functions that made MKHQ calls for EC functions _Q63, _Q64, _Q4E, _Q4F, but did nothing on mine---maybe these are a good starting point. Add a whole pile, and see if you get lucky! (At your own risk, of course... :/ But it should be pretty safe).

Yes, the above sounds pretty identical to tpb, except with /proc/ibm/ecdump instead of /dev/nvram. The above works very nicely, however there's luck involved in finding the right number, even if it exists!

[[User:lentinj|lentinj]]

----

Fn+F6 does not seem to generate an event on t41p even if the mask is set to 0xffff and experimental=1 is passed to ibm_acpi
[[User:tf|tf]]

----

==Bind Fn to super or hyper ==

Hello

Is it possible to bind Fn via Xmodmap to a key modifier such as hyper or super? Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:14, 6 February 2006 (CET):
----
I doubt it. The event for the {{key|Fn}} key is generated at release (as opposed to holding it where it serves it's usual special function). Hence you can't use it as a modifier. [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 22:52, 6 February 2006 (CET)
----
==Bind Fn 12 say to F34 ==
Thanks Wyrfel for your reply, in order to display my question better, I use a new header: can I bind all the Fn Fx to hay F34 and the like?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 21:33, 10 February 2006 (CET):
----
You can do this with all key '''combinations''' that support xmodmap (see the table). That means you can't do it with {{key|Fn}}}{{key|F12}}, because that combination doesn't generate a key event at all (it only generates an APM/ACPI event. Hence there is nothing vor xmodmap to remap.

But what is your wider focus goal? I'm sure that what you want to do can be realized, anyway: You can write an ACPI script and event file for {{key|Fn}}{{key|F12}} and have the script start some tool that sends a F34 key to the X server. I'm sure this is possible.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:03, 11 February 2006 (CET)
----
==Can't bind Fn 12 ==

Hello

I am using a R51 and I have compiled ibm-acpi monolithic in the kernel (not as module, maybe this is a mistake?). Anyway, I am using
suspend2, which I compiled in the kernel as well. Now I have bound
''to hibernate '' first to Fn 4, with the following script
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate

This works fine. Now I want to do the same for Fn12, so following the key table I did:

event=button[/] ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate

But that does not work. What is the problem? I tried even
echo enable,0xffff >/proc/acpi/ibm/hotkey
without success. Can anybody help me?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 16:27, 4 March 2006 (CET):
----
The proper event line is
event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
.

Also, make sure that you are not using [thinkpad-acpi]. If <tt>event=button[ /]sleep</tt> works for {{key|Fn}}{{key|F4}}, that indicates that you do. It might block the ibm-acpi driver. Check your kernel config and disable any thinkpad acpi driver except ibm-acpi.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 21:58, 4 March 2006 (CET)
----

:Hello
:
:It is odd, I am pretty sure, that I do not use [thinkpad-acpi], but [ibm-acpi], although event=button[ /]sleep works for FnF4, in any case I found out that
:
: event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
:
:Works! What do you think of adding a subsection to the [[How to get special keys to work]] page, with some examples, like the following:
:
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/battery'':
event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
action=/usr/local/sbin/hibernate
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/lid''
event=button/lid
action=/usr/local/bin/mysleepram
from "/etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn")
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn''
event=(button/sleep|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004)
action=/usr/local/bin/mysleepram
:
:(Also ''event=button/sleep '' works for me)
:and then restart acpi:
:
/etc/init.d/acpid restart
:
:[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:22, 5 March 2006 (CET):

==Turn on/off Wifi on Fn5 ==
Hi

I hope this is the last question. I use a crude way to activate and deactivate my wificard: I remove and insert the relevant modules, with 2 simple scripts. Now the question is how can I bind Fn5 so, that it turns on and off the wificard? With my approach I need to fire up two scripts, and that I cannot bind to one button. Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:56, 5 March 2006 (CET):

Talk:How to get special keys to work

2006-03-05T16:55:34Z

Oub: using an external editor

__TOC__

The xmodmap step doesn't seem to work when using the "kdb" driver of xorg. Here are the changes I needed to make to my setup to get the "back" and "forward" keys to work (in diff -u format);

--- xkb/symbols/inet.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:04.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/symbols/inet 2005-03-08 19:59:32.587636120 +0100
@@ -1875,6 +1875,16 @@
key <I76> { [ XF86AudioLowerVolume ] };
};

+// IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys
+
+partial alphanumeric_keys
+xkb_symbols "tp41" {
+ name[Group1]= "IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys";
+
+ key <I69> { [ F22 ] };
+ key <I6A> { [ F21 ] };
+};
+
// Trust

partial alphanumeric_keys<br>

--- xkb/rules/xorg.lst.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg.lst 2005-03-07 20:55:21.000000000 +0100
@@ -97,6 +97,7 @@
sven SVEN Ergonomic 2500
symplon Symplon PaceBook (tablet PC)
toshiba_s3000 Toshiba Satellite S3000
+ tp41 IBM ThinkPad 41 Internet Keys
trust Trust Wireless Keyboard Classic
trustda Trust Direct Access Keyboard
yahoo Yahoo! Internet Keyboard

--- xkb/rules/xorg.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg 2005-03-07 20:45:59.000000000 +0100
@@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
qtronix \
samsung4500 samsung4510 \
sk1300 sk2500 sk6200 sk7100 \
- sven symplon toshiba_s3000 trust trustda yahoo
+ sven symplon toshiba_s3000 tp41 trust trustda yahoo

! model = symbols
$inetkbds = +inet(%m)

--- xkb/rules/xorg.xml.oud 2004-12-01 08:36:05.000000000 +0100
+++ xkb/rules/xorg.xml 2005-03-07 20:52:35.000000000 +0100
@@ -975,6 +975,13 @@
</model>
<model>
<configItem>
+ <name>tp41</name>
+ <description>IBM Thinkpad 41 Internet Keys</description>
+ <description xml:lang="nl">IBM ThinkPad 41 internet toetsen</description>
+ </configItem>
+ </model>
+ <model>
+ <configItem>
<name>trust</name>
<description>Trust Wireless Keyboard Classic</description>
<description xml:lang="fr">clavier classique Trust Wireless</description>

Do not forget to add something like "+inet(tp41)" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
(...)
Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl+inet(tp41)"
(...)

== Not T41 specific ==

These keys are hardly T41 specific, they can also be found on the T30, T40, T42 and I'm sure several other ThinkPads in the X, R and G lineup.

Actually, the above patches could be completed with the information of the other special keys found on some Thinkpads (which is listed in [[How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#xmodmap_configuration]]) and submitted as a request for enhancement with [http://bugs.freedesktop.org xorg's bugzilla]. However, firefox doesn't yet recognize keysyms like XF86Back, XF86Forward, so then firefox still needs to be patched manually (unless an enhancement is requested for firefox too).

== Fake ACPI events? ==

Not all keys generate ACPI events. Maybe it is feasible to have the ibm-acpi module check the CMOS (instead of having tpb checking /dev/nvram) and generate fake ACPI events for those keys. Even if it is feasible, that is probably way to hacky for a kernel module ... Still, it would be nice to only have to use scripts triggered by ACPI events and not both scripts for ACPI events and scripts for tpb.

----
I think something like this is possible with ibm-acpi 0.10 already. It provides a proc file from which you can derive a table of CMOS states. You'd only have to figure the who is who of CMOS bits and write a daemon (or daemon like shell script) checking them regularly. This should be about what you suggest since tpb does the same thing with the bios ram. Of course generating ACPI events can not be done like that (or can it?), but you could trigger the ACPI action scripts directly then.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 01:02, 14 Mar 2005 (CET)
----

It may be possible (I have a 770x, so don't have the special keys) to add the keys as real ACPI events, by altering the DSDT. I've done this to enable ACPI events for Fn-(every labelled F key),Home,End,PgUp,PgDn on mine, and they aren't labelled with anything physically (no thinklight and physical brightness control). The Embedded Controller reports all events, including keys, by calling one of the _Qxx functions (you'll find a whole pile in the sourcecode for the DSDT). If you then insert a fucntion in the same scope as the others like:-
Method (_Q12, 0, NotSerialized) { \_SB.HKEY.MHKQ (0x1003) } //Fn-F3
when executed, ibm-acpi will then report an acpi event numbered 0x0001003. You should find some functions, e.g. _Q1B For Fn-F12 identical to this.

I found some IBM DSDT's had functions that made MKHQ calls for EC functions _Q63, _Q64, _Q4E, _Q4F, but did nothing on mine---maybe these are a good starting point. Add a whole pile, and see if you get lucky! (At your own risk, of course... :/ But it should be pretty safe).

Yes, the above sounds pretty identical to tpb, except with /proc/ibm/ecdump instead of /dev/nvram. The above works very nicely, however there's luck involved in finding the right number, even if it exists!

[[User:lentinj|lentinj]]

----

Fn+F6 does not seem to generate an event on t41p even if the mask is set to 0xffff and experimental=1 is passed to ibm_acpi
[[User:tf|tf]]

----

==Bind Fn to super or hyper ==

Hello

Is it possible to bind Fn via Xmodmap to a key modifier such as hyper or super? Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:14, 6 February 2006 (CET):
----
I doubt it. The event for the {{key|Fn}} key is generated at release (as opposed to holding it where it serves it's usual special function). Hence you can't use it as a modifier. [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 22:52, 6 February 2006 (CET)
----
==Bind Fn 12 say to F34 ==
Thanks Wyrfel for your reply, in order to display my question better, I use a new header: can I bind all the Fn Fx to hay F34 and the like?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 21:33, 10 February 2006 (CET):
----
You can do this with all key '''combinations''' that support xmodmap (see the table). That means you can't do it with {{key|Fn}}}{{key|F12}}, because that combination doesn't generate a key event at all (it only generates an APM/ACPI event. Hence there is nothing vor xmodmap to remap.

But what is your wider focus goal? I'm sure that what you want to do can be realized, anyway: You can write an ACPI script and event file for {{key|Fn}}{{key|F12}} and have the script start some tool that sends a F34 key to the X server. I'm sure this is possible.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:03, 11 February 2006 (CET)
----
==Can't bind Fn 12 ==

Hello

I am using a R51 and I have compiled ibm-acpi monolithic in the kernel (not as module, maybe this is a mistake?). Anyway, I am using
suspend2, which I compiled in the kernel as well. Now I have bound
''to hibernate '' first to Fn 4, with the following script
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate

This works fine. Now I want to do the same for Fn12, so following the key table I did:

event=button[/] ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate

But that does not work. What is the problem? I tried even
echo enable,0xffff >/proc/acpi/ibm/hotkey
without success. Can anybody help me?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 16:27, 4 March 2006 (CET):
----
The proper event line is
event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
.

Also, make sure that you are not using [thinkpad-acpi]. If <tt>event=button[ /]sleep</tt> works for {{key|Fn}}{{key|F4}}, that indicates that you do. It might block the ibm-acpi driver. Check your kernel config and disable any thinkpad acpi driver except ibm-acpi.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 21:58, 4 March 2006 (CET)
----

:Hello
:
:It is odd, I am pretty sure, that I do not use [thinkpad-acpi], but [ibm-acpi], although event=button[ /]sleep works for FnF4, in any case I found out that
:
: event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
:
:Works! What do you think of adding a subsection to the [[How to get special keys to work]] page, with some examples, like the following:
:
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/battery'':
event=(button/power|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
action=/usr/local/sbin/hibernate
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/lid''
event=button/lid action=/usr/local/bin/mysleepram
from "/etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn")
:from ''/etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn''
event=(button/sleep|ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080
00001004)action=/usr/local/bin/mysleepram
:
:(Also ''event=button/sleep '' works for me)
:and then restart acpi:
:
/etc/init.d/acpid restart
:
:[[User:Oub|Oub]] 13:22, 5 March 2006 (CET):

==Turn on/off Wifi on Fn5 ==
Hi

I hope this is the last question. I use a crude way to activate and deactivate my wificard: I remove and insert the relevant modules, with 2 simple scripts. Now the question is how can I bind Fn5 so, that it turns on and off the wificard? With my approach I need to fire up two scripts, and that I cannot bind to one button. Thanks
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:55, 5 March 2006 (CET):

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2006-03-05T12:22:01Z

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Talk:How to get special keys to work

2006-03-05T12:20:20Z

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Talk:How to get special keys to work

2006-03-04T15:27:33Z

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Talk:How to get special keys to work

2006-03-04T15:27:10Z

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Talk:How to configure acpid

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__TOC__
<i>This content was merged from my original T30 specific page
[[T30_ACPI_Sleeping]] that is now being redirected here. IMO this page
is a mistake because the solution is specific to machines with radeon
video. It would be better if someone could resurrect the origial page.
Also the below script is a little sketchy.</i>
----
As i wrote you before, the information on this page is not only T30
specific and we don't want to end up with hundreds of pages covering
the same topic just designating a different machine in the name.

I.e. would you like to have another page called A31p_ACPI_Sleeping?
And another one X31_ACPI_Sleeping? All being the same except for the
mentioned model? The instructions for these models would be precisely
the same and it would only mean redundant maintenance.

The overall topic of your original page is covered by the following
pages:
*[[How to make ACPI work]]
*[[How to configure acpid]]
*[[Problem with LCD backlight remaining on during ACPI sleep]]

Furthermore, those pages are directly accessible from the
[[:Category:T30|T30]] model page and they link to one another as well.

Your only argument for having it on a separate page is that T30 users
wanting to use ACPI sleep can find it more easily. I think that a user
can find all the needed information pretty easily if he follows a
logical path like looking on the T30 model page, and the ACPI-HOWTO
page. First you want to make ACPI work in general. Then if you think
you managed that but still have a problem, you look for further
information, i.e. have a look into the problems pages. In this case
you even don't need to since the according problem page is linked
directly from the ACPI-Howto page.

What if a A31p user comes to ThinkWiki with the same problem? Will he
find the information when it's on a page labelled "T30_ACPI_Sleeping"?
I guess not. So what do we do? Make a second page and redirect that to
this page? Why then is it bad to redirect "T30_ACPI_Sleeping" to a
page where all the relevant information can be accessed from? If you
think this page is the wrong target, we can change it to point to the
LCD backlight problem page.

Furthermore, this page is not specific to notebooks featuring radeons.
The general information in the beginning is acpid-specific and else
generic. The example event entry is acpi-sleep and lid specific and
else generic. The actual example script features 5 lines that are
radeon (or T30, A30, A31p, X30 and X31) specific, as is also stated in
a comment below the script.

Specific for notebooks with radeons is the
[[Problem with LCD backlight remaining on during ACPI sleep]] page. It
is in fact even more specific, since it covers the exact problem that
doesn't affect all radeon based ThinkPads.

Your original page covered three different topics in one page, making
it specific for exactly what your page title designated: T30s, ACPI
and sleep mode. But all three of those topics are distinct topics in
themselves and are not specific to your what your page title
designates.

If you find more intuitive page names than i did feel free to propose
them, but i really don't see the point in having a separate page to
maintain for each specific question a user might come up with.

Wyrfel
----
==Which event is which ==

That may be a silly question but which button correspond to which
entry in the /etc/acpi/events?
I know event=button/lid corresponds to closing the lid
event=button/sleep is the Fn-F4 button but the rest?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 22:00, 10 February 2006 (CET):
----
See the ibm-acpi section in [[How to get special keys to work]].
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:04, 11 February 2006 (CET)

:Hi I am sorry, but I still don't understand, according to the section
[[How to get special keys to work]]. Fn F4 is bound as follows
:Fn F4 ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004
:however my script ''sleeptbtn'' in /etc/acpi/events is as follows:
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate
:This way Fn F4 is bound to mihibernate. It works fine. Are you saying
that the script could also work with the following instructions:
ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate
:I am confused. I think it would be good to have a list similar to
that in [[How to get special keys to work]].
:But instead of using HKEY is should use syntaxes like this, if
possible
::Fn F4 event=button[ /]sleep
:Etc.
:[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:18, 11 February 2006 (CET):
----
Hi, if you use the ibm-acpi driver it should '''only''' work with
something like "ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004". Are you using
ibm-acpi? That your config works could indicate the you are using
[[thinkpad-acpi]] instead, because your config expects a string
"button/sleep" or "button sleep", while the event generated by
ibm-acpi doesn't include the string "sleep" at all.

We could copy the table fromm [[How to get special keys to work]]
here, but i'd rather prefer to leave a note here that points there.
This reduces double maintenance and strictly seen it is a button
config, not a power management one (one could configure it to do
something that's not PM related at all).

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 03:30, 12 February 2006 (CET)
----
:Hi
:
:It is really confusing! Although for me
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate
:works, well it seems that I use ibm-acpi. I am using the 2.6.10
kernel, and activated that option in the configuration process. I
cannot remember to have installed thinkpad-acpi, and dpkg -l | grep
thinkpad does not return anything meaningful (I am on Debian). I have
tpb and tpct, thinkpad-base and laptop-mode-tools installed. So I am
really puzzled.
:
:You still did not answer my question: what are the string equivalents
to the hotkey entries in the list found at
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work. Again
in that list I see for example:
key event
Fn F4 ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004
Fn F12 ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
:So I would like to have a list of the form
key event
Fn F4 event=button[ /]power
Fn F12 ?????
:Thanks
:
:[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:13, 12 February 2006 (CET):
----
I guess i just didn't understand your question, which is because of
the fact that to my knowledge there are no "string equivalents" for
the hotkey entries. Or in other words, these "hotkey entries" ARE the
"string equivalents". Those are exactly the strings that acpid will
recieve from ibm-acpi. AFAIK it doesn't recieve anything in the form
of "button[ /]sleep" at all. That's why in theory, your config
shouldn't work. Don't know why it does in reality, maybe you should
install a SETI client and check for the existance extraterrestrical
lifeforms in your ThinkPad. ;-) (Sorry, just being rediculous.)

However, let's try discovering it in a more reasonable approach: do a
{{cmdroot|tar -f /var/log/acpid}}. Then press the {{key|Fn}}{{key|F4}}
combination and see what happens in the terminal. Look for lines that
say "recieved event" and then look at the event strings there. Do they
more look like "button[ /]sleep" or more like "ibm/hotkey ...."? Also,
please do a {{cmdroot|dmesg <nowiki>|</nowiki> grep ibm_acpi}}. If it
returns some lines you would have ibm_acpi running, if not, probably
something else. (Though 2.6.10 was exactly the first kernel that
included ibm-acpi, if i remember right, it included both thinkpad-acpi
and ibm-acpi.)

Just checking again, it would definately seem to me that you are using
thinkpad-acpi. Look at [http://rigtorp.se/thinkpad.xhtml the authors
page], his config matches yours.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 20:07, 12 February 2006 (CET)
----

Hm

You mean tail -f /var/log/acpid instead of tar -f?
Here comes the output

tail -f /var/log/acpid
:ERROR: Module hsfsoar does not exist in /proc/modules
:/usr/local/sbin/hibernate: 812: switchto: not found
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] END HANDLER MESSAGES
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] action exited with status 0
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] executing action "/etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh button/lid LID 00000080 00000005"
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] BEGIN HANDLER MESSAGES
:Laptop mode was already disabled, not disabling.
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] END HANDLER MESSAGES
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] action exited with status 0
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] completed event "button/lid LID 00000080 00000005"
:now comes Fn F4 which hibernates my machine!
:
:[Sun Feb 12 21:02:25 2006] received event "button/sleep SLPB 00000080 0000000b"
:[Sun Feb 12 21:02:25 2006] executing action "/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate"
:[Sun Feb 12 21:02:25 2006] BEGIN HANDLER MESSAGES
:ERROR: Module hsfusbcd2 does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfmc97ali does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfmc97via does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfmc97ich does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfpcibasic2 does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfmc97sis does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfmc97ati does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfserial does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfengine does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfosspec does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfsoar does not exist in /proc/modules
:/usr/local/sbin/hibernate: 812: switchto: not found
:[Sun Feb 12 21:03:28 2006] END HANDLER MESSAGES
:[Sun Feb 12 21:03:28 2006] action exited with status 0
:[Sun Feb 12 21:03:28 2006] completed event "button/sleep SLPB 00000080 0000000b"
:

dmesg | grep ibm_acpi.
Does not return anything
may be I ask eric about the Fn F12 key, sorry to bother you with that problem. Indeed my configuration is odd. I copied it from Linux for Laptops: one of the configurations of a working Debian installation.
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 21:46, 12 February 2006 (CET):
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<i>This content was merged from my original T30 specific page
[[T30_ACPI_Sleeping]] that is now being redirected here. IMO this page
is a mistake because the solution is specific to machines with radeon
video. It would be better if someone could resurrect the origial page.
Also the below script is a little sketchy.</i>
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As i wrote you before, the information on this page is not only T30
specific and we don't want to end up with hundreds of pages covering
the same topic just designating a different machine in the name.

I.e. would you like to have another page called A31p_ACPI_Sleeping?
And another one X31_ACPI_Sleeping? All being the same except for the
mentioned model? The instructions for these models would be precisely
the same and it would only mean redundant maintenance.

The overall topic of your original page is covered by the following
pages:
*[[How to make ACPI work]]
*[[How to configure acpid]]
*[[Problem with LCD backlight remaining on during ACPI sleep]]

Furthermore, those pages are directly accessible from the
[[:Category:T30|T30]] model page and they link to one another as well.

Your only argument for having it on a separate page is that T30 users
wanting to use ACPI sleep can find it more easily. I think that a user
can find all the needed information pretty easily if he follows a
logical path like looking on the T30 model page, and the ACPI-HOWTO
page. First you want to make ACPI work in general. Then if you think
you managed that but still have a problem, you look for further
information, i.e. have a look into the problems pages. In this case
you even don't need to since the according problem page is linked
directly from the ACPI-Howto page.

What if a A31p user comes to ThinkWiki with the same problem? Will he
find the information when it's on a page labelled "T30_ACPI_Sleeping"?
I guess not. So what do we do? Make a second page and redirect that to
this page? Why then is it bad to redirect "T30_ACPI_Sleeping" to a
page where all the relevant information can be accessed from? If you
think this page is the wrong target, we can change it to point to the
LCD backlight problem page.

Furthermore, this page is not specific to notebooks featuring radeons.
The general information in the beginning is acpid-specific and else
generic. The example event entry is acpi-sleep and lid specific and
else generic. The actual example script features 5 lines that are
radeon (or T30, A30, A31p, X30 and X31) specific, as is also stated in
a comment below the script.

Specific for notebooks with radeons is the
[[Problem with LCD backlight remaining on during ACPI sleep]] page. It
is in fact even more specific, since it covers the exact problem that
doesn't affect all radeon based ThinkPads.

Your original page covered three different topics in one page, making
it specific for exactly what your page title designated: T30s, ACPI
and sleep mode. But all three of those topics are distinct topics in
themselves and are not specific to your what your page title
designates.

If you find more intuitive page names than i did feel free to propose
them, but i really don't see the point in having a separate page to
maintain for each specific question a user might come up with.

Wyrfel
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==Which event is which ==

That may be a silly question but which button correspond to which
entry in the /etc/acpi/events?
I know event=button/lid corresponds to closing the lid
event=button/sleep is the Fn-F4 button but the rest?
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 22:00, 10 February 2006 (CET):
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See the ibm-acpi section in [[How to get special keys to work]].
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:04, 11 February 2006 (CET)

:Hi I am sorry, but I still don't understand, according to the section
[[How to get special keys to work]]. Fn F4 is bound as follows
:Fn F4 ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004
:however my script ''sleeptbtn'' in /etc/acpi/events is as follows:
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate
:This way Fn F4 is bound to mihibernate. It works fine. Are you saying
that the script could also work with the following instructions:
ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate
:I am confused. I think it would be good to have a list similar to
that in [[How to get special keys to work]].
:But instead of using HKEY is should use syntaxes like this, if
possible
::Fn F4 event=button[ /]sleep
:Etc.
:[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:18, 11 February 2006 (CET):
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Hi, if you use the ibm-acpi driver it should '''only''' work with
something like "ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004". Are you using
ibm-acpi? That your config works could indicate the you are using
[[thinkpad-acpi]] instead, because your config expects a string
"button/sleep" or "button sleep", while the event generated by
ibm-acpi doesn't include the string "sleep" at all.

We could copy the table fromm [[How to get special keys to work]]
here, but i'd rather prefer to leave a note here that points there.
This reduces double maintenance and strictly seen it is a button
config, not a power management one (one could configure it to do
something that's not PM related at all).

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 03:30, 12 February 2006 (CET)
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:Hi
:
:It is really confusing! Although for me
event=button[ /]sleep
action=/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate
:works, well it seems that I use ibm-acpi. I am using the 2.6.10
kernel, and activated that option in the configuration process. I
cannot remember to have installed thinkpad-acpi, and dpkg -l | grep
thinkpad does not return anything meaningful (I am on Debian). I have
tpb and tpct, thinkpad-base and laptop-mode-tools installed. So I am
really puzzled.
:
:You still did not answer my question: what are the string equivalents
to the hotkey entries in the list found at
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work. Again
in that list I see for example:
key event
Fn F4 ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 00001004
Fn F12 ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c
:So I would like to have a list of the form
key event
Fn F4 event=button[ /]power
Fn F12 ?????
:Thanks
:
:[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:13, 12 February 2006 (CET):
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I guess i just didn't understand your question, which is because of
the fact that to my knowledge there are no "string equivalents" for
the hotkey entries. Or in other words, these "hotkey entries" ARE the
"string equivalents". Those are exactly the strings that acpid will
recieve from ibm-acpi. AFAIK it doesn't recieve anything in the form
of "button[ /]sleep" at all. That's why in theory, your config
shouldn't work. Don't know why it does in reality, maybe you should
install a SETI client and check for the existance extraterrestrical
lifeforms in your ThinkPad. ;-) (Sorry, just being rediculous.)

However, let's try discovering it in a more reasonable approach: do a
{{cmdroot|tar -f /var/log/acpid}}. Then press the {{key|Fn}}{{key|F4}}
combination and see what happens in the terminal. Look for lines that
say "recieved event" and then look at the event strings there. Do they
more look like "button[ /]sleep" or more like "ibm/hotkey ...."? Also,
please do a {{cmdroot|dmesg <nowiki>|</nowiki> grep ibm_acpi}}. If it
returns some lines you would have ibm_acpi running, if not, probably
something else. (Though 2.6.10 was exactly the first kernel that
included ibm-acpi, if i remember right, it included both thinkpad-acpi
and ibm-acpi.)

Just checking again, it would definately seem to me that you are using
thinkpad-acpi. Look at [http://rigtorp.se/thinkpad.xhtml the authors
page], his config matches yours.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 20:07, 12 February 2006 (CET)
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Hm

You mean tail -f /var/log/acpid instead of tar -f?
Here comes the output

tail -f /var/log/acpid
:ERROR: Module hsfsoar does not exist in /proc/modules
:/usr/local/sbin/hibernate: 812: switchto: not found
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] END HANDLER MESSAGES
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] action exited with status 0
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] executing action "/etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh button/lid LID 00000080 00000005"
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] BEGIN HANDLER MESSAGES
:Laptop mode was already disabled, not disabling.
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] END HANDLER MESSAGES
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] action exited with status 0
:[Sun Feb 12 20:17:15 2006] completed event "button/lid LID 00000080 00000005"
:now comes Fn F4 which hibernates my machine!
:
:[Sun Feb 12 21:02:25 2006] received event "button/sleep SLPB 00000080 0000000b"
:[Sun Feb 12 21:02:25 2006] executing action "/usr/local/sbin/mihibernate"
:[Sun Feb 12 21:02:25 2006] BEGIN HANDLER MESSAGES
:ERROR: Module hsfusbcd2 does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfmc97ali does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfmc97via does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfmc97ich does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfpcibasic2 does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfmc97sis does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfmc97ati does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfserial does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfengine does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfosspec does not exist in /proc/modules
:ERROR: Module hsfsoar does not exist in /proc/modules
:/usr/local/sbin/hibernate: 812: switchto: not found
:[Sun Feb 12 21:03:28 2006] END HANDLER MESSAGES
:[Sun Feb 12 21:03:28 2006] action exited with status 0
:[Sun Feb 12 21:03:28 2006] completed event "button/sleep SLPB 00000080 0000000b"
:

dmesg | grep ibm_acpi.
Does not return anything
may be I ask eric about the Fn F12 key, sorry to bother you with that problem. Indeed my configuration is odd
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 21:24, 12 February 2006 (CET):
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Talk:How to configure acpid

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Talk:How to configure acpid

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Talk:How to configure acpid

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Talk:How to configure acpid

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Talk:How to get special keys to work

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