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Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-29T21:53:16Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

<div style="margin: 0; margin-top:10px; margin-right:10px; border: 1px solid #dfdfdf; padding: 0em 1em 1em 1em; background-color:#F8F8FF; align:left;">
'''UPDATE'''
Using a [http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/742/ ZIF HDD/SSD] with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/mcboe32gqapq-3.jpg removed]. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 japanese] also [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- ie not the [http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_non-ThinkPad_hard_disks hdd white list] stored in the BIOS --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.

1.8" IDE HDD are not available anymore. Thus, Lenovo after-sale services now provides a [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-69154 full setup] with a new [http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/c4k60_slim/c4k60_slim.htm ZIF 1.8" HDD], a [http://www.ele.uri.edu/~sclan/xjv/gal/tpx41t_scrnsht/pict0041.jpg special HDD case] and a [http://www.ele.uri.edu/~sclan/xjv/gal/tpx41t_scrnsht/pict0032.jpg ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter]. Some testimonies can be found on [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=57685 thinkpads forums] with [http://www.ele.uri.edu/~sclan/xjv/index.php?spgmGal=tpx41t_scrnsht some pictures].
</div>

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-29T21:44:21Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

<div style="margin: 0; margin-top:10px; margin-right:10px; border: 1px solid #dfdfdf; padding: 0em 1em 1em 1em; background-color:#F8F8FF; align:left;">
'''UPDATE'''
Using a [http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/742/ ZIF HDD/SSD] with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/mcboe32gqapq-3.jpg removed]. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 japanese] also [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- ie not the [http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_non-ThinkPad_hard_disks hdd white list] stored in the BIOS --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.

1.8" IDE HDD are not available anymore. Thus, Lenovo after-sale services now provides a full setup with a new [http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/c4k60_slim/c4k60_slim.htm ZIF 1.8" HDD], a [http://www.ele.uri.edu/~sclan/xjv/gal/tpx41t_scrnsht/pict0041.jpg special HDD case] and a [http://www.ele.uri.edu/~sclan/xjv/gal/tpx41t_scrnsht/pict0032.jpg ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter]. Some testimonies can be found on [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=57685 thinkpads forums] with [http://www.ele.uri.edu/~sclan/xjv/index.php?spgmGal=tpx41t_scrnsht some pictures].
</div>

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-27T20:11:05Z

Mat41:

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

<div style="margin: 0; margin-top:10px; margin-right:10px; border: 1px solid #dfdfdf; padding: 0em 1em 1em 1em; background-color:#F8F8FF; align:left;">
'''UPDATE'''
Using a [http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/742/ ZIF HDD/SSD] with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/mcboe32gqapq-3.jpg removed]. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 japanese] also [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- ie not the [http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_non-ThinkPad_hard_disks hdd white list] stored in the BIOS --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.
</div>

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-27T20:02:49Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

<div style="margin: 0; margin-top:10px; margin-right:10px; border: 1px solid #dfdfdf; padding: 0em 1em 1em 1em; background-color:#efefef; align:right;">
'''UPDATE'''
Using a [http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/742/ ZIF HDD/SSD] with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/mcboe32gqapq-3.jpg removed]. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 japanese] also [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- ie not the [http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_non-ThinkPad_hard_disks hdd white list] stored in the BIOS --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.
</div>

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-27T19:12:43Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Using a [http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/742/ ZIF HDD/SSD] with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/mcboe32gqapq-3.jpg removed]. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 japanese] also [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- ie not the [http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_non-ThinkPad_hard_disks hdd white list] stored in the BIOS --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-27T19:11:16Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Using a [http://www.behardware.com/articles/742-1/mtron-mobi-3500.html ZIF HDD/SSD] with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/mcboe32gqapq-3.jpg removed]. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 japanese] also [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- ie not the [http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_non-ThinkPad_hard_disks hdd white list] stored in the BIOS --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-27T19:07:09Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Using a [http://www.behardware.com/articles/742-1/mtron-mobi-3500.html ZIF HDD/SSD] with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/mcboe32gqapq-3.jpg removed]. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 japanese] also [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- except with the original Hitachi models --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_non-ThinkPad_hard_disks no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-27T19:02:35Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Using a [http://www.behardware.com/articles/742-1/mtron-mobi-3500.html ZIF HDD/SSD] with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/mcboe32gqapq-3.jpg removed]. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 japanese] also [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- except with the original Hitachi models --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-27T18:50:50Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Using a ZIF HDD/SSD with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/mcboe32gqapq-3.jpg removed]. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 japanese] also [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- except with the original Hitachi models --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-27T18:50:07Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Using a ZIF HDD/SSD with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/mcboe32gqapq-3.jpg removed]. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm japanese] also [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- except with the original Hitachi models --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-27T18:40:55Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Using a ZIF HDD/SSD with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. One have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be removed. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm japanese] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- except a few hitachi --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-27T18:40:02Z

Mat41:

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Using a ZIF HDD/SSD with a Thinkpad X40/X41 is possible. On have to use a [http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF 1.8" to IDE 2.5" adapter], available on [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220333076814 ebay] for example. The 3.3V regulator have to be removed. If you are willing to setup a such disk, you may be interested in these tutorials (in [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm japanese] or in [http://www.think4d.de/nbb/x41_ssd.htm german]) and these threads on thinkpads.com: [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70458 this one] and [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=70255 this one].

Please note that with most of the devices --- except a few hitachi --- you will get the [http://www.think4d.de/nba/pic/007.jpg "2010 error"]. This will also result in a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5he5FawHE bios startup slowdown]. It seems that there is [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059 no way] to avoid this issue for an X40/X41.

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-22T17:55:23Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Can one these adapter work with a new ssd/hd drive using a zif connector and a thinkpad X41 ?
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to IDE 2.5"],
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_Toshiba_1.8_Inch_Adapter-product-212.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to Toshiba 1.8"],
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_SATA_Serial-ATA_Adapter-product-253.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to SATA].

It seems that some people have ever tried it [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 here] and [http://homepage2.nifty.com/emotom/x40/x4.htm here].

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-22T17:43:45Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Can one these adapter work with a new ssd/hd drive using a zif connector and a thinkpad X41 ?
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to IDE 2.5"],
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_Toshiba_1.8_Inch_Adapter-product-212.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to Toshiba 1.8"],
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_SATA_Serial-ATA_Adapter-product-253.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to SATA].

It seems that someone has ever [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 tried it].

--[[User:Mat41|Mat41]] 18:43, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-22T17:43:17Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

----
I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
----

== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Can one these adapter work with a new ssd/hd drive using a zif connector and a thinkpad X41 ?
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to IDE 2.5"],
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_Toshiba_1.8_Inch_Adapter-product-212.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to Toshiba 1.8"],
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_SATA_Serial-ATA_Adapter-product-253.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to SATA].

It seems that someone has ever [http://www.knonline.net/d/?date=20080505 tried it].

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)

Talk:Hard disk drives

2008-12-22T14:44:09Z

Mat41: /* Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 */

Could anybody just give a brief hind on how to replace the hard disc? I haven't gotten a single clue, and I seem not to be able to find any documentation on that topic. I would really be greatful for any help whatsoever. :)

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I wonder where you are looking for that documentation.
*the printed manuals that should have come with your ThinkPad include that documentation
*the Access IBM help application in Windows includes that documentation
*the hardware maintenance manuals linked from almost every model page in ThinkWiki includes that documentation
*googling for "thinkpad replace harddisk" has [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-44101 this] link in 5th position and replacing "thinkpad" with your actual model will for sure lead you to more specific documentation

I guess you've just been waiting for someone to throw it into your letter box.

[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 14:11, 4 Nov 2005 (CET)
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== FUJITSU MHV2120AH suitable for T41? ==

Hello guys,

I've bought a Fujitsu MHV2120AH. Has anyone experience whether that harddisk is suitable for the Thinkpad T41? It seems that I can't insert the harddisk entirely.

Thanks a lot.
Marcus

== Modding ZIF connectors for AT connection in X41 ==

I've been searching online for a new hard disk for my Thinkpad X41 (2525), it has one of those little 1.8" TravelStar drives that seems to have a PATA interface (rows of pins) on it. It looks like these 1.8" drives have been pretty much discontinued by Hitachi and they only sell the same disk but with a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) connector.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a PATA to ZIF connector to work in a Thinkpad?
or indeed any source of the HTC***AT drives?

--[[User:Callum|Callum]] 15:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no ZIF-2-PATA adapters (which would fit into the notebook), as far as I can tell.
The 1.8" HDDs are produced with ZIF or PATA and all system manufacturers alway use these connectors directly.
I think Hitachi is/was the only HDD-manufacturer which offered PATA-Interfaces.

Have you tried to get the HDD through IBM/Lenovo?

They offer parts for at least 5 Years for most products (IBM does, maybe Lenovo as well?). Sure they are a little overpriced, but any replacement part I bought for my X31 was "in range" and one was surprisingly cheap.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Can one these adapter work with a new ssd/hd drive using a zif connector and a thinkpad X41 ?
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_IDE_2.5_Inch_Adapter-product-209.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to IDE 2.5"],
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_Toshiba_1.8_Inch_Adapter-product-212.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to Toshiba 1.8"],
[http://www.soarland.com/ZIF_CE_1.8_Inch_To_SATA_Serial-ATA_Adapter-product-253.html ZIF/CE 1.8" to SATA].

== 1.8" drives ==

I recommend once your Deathstar 1.8" drive dies, just use an external drive like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1508630532/

X40s can boot Linux fine from external USB hard drives.

If you want to attempt to pull data off an old 1.8" drive, you can actually use an 2.5" IDE USB enclosure like I do here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/1809483099/

[[User:Hendry|Hendry]] 21:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This does not solve the problem, because you have to carry the external hard drive where ever you go and use it every time, which successfully defeats the concept of a notebook, especially of any sub-notebook like the X-Series ones.

Its better to do it, then using your ThinkPad as a paperweight, but no real solution of roadwarriors.

--[[User:BDKMPSS|BDKMPSS]] 14:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The HDD connector looks like a standard 2.5" HDD connector. You can physically connect a 2.5" IDE drive, but it protrudes form the case (of course) and the BIOS does not recognise it. Possibly it draws too much power?

Unfortunately, new 1.8" drives with this connector are still rare and expensive. (compared to the current value of the X40/X41)

I'd suggest two alternatives:
* get a poor-mans SSD using a CF-to-IDE adapter such as this one: [http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310] (if it fits? better one with DMA.)
* buy a used MP3 player with a Hitachi 1.8" drive.

I have an old Creative Zen Touch, with a 20GB Hitachi Travelstar. This will be an organ-donor, should the thinkpad's HDD ever die.
--[[User:Mykh|Mykh]] 04:56, 15 July 2008 (CEST)