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		<id>https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Installation_on_ThinkPads_without_CD-ROM_drive&amp;diff=21891</id>
		<title>Talk:Installation on ThinkPads without CD-ROM drive</title>
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		<updated>2006-04-23T11:22:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Klinec: &lt;/p&gt;
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I created this article by putting together pieces of information from other sources, accompanied by what i remember from my various installation experiences. But i don't really have experience in any of the proposed procedures myself. So feel free to correct anything that's wrong or extend the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 17:36, 9 Jul 2005 (CEST).&lt;br /&gt;
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== No CD drive, no floppy, no network card ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi I have ThinkPad 560z that has no CDrom, no floppy and no network card.&lt;br /&gt;
I tried to install over the network with 3Com PCMCIA card but it didn't work.&lt;br /&gt;
Laptop has an USB but easy-setup doesn't support booting from it. &lt;br /&gt;
Any suggestions how to install a system onto it, without removing HDD?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks&lt;br /&gt;
==PXE ==&lt;br /&gt;
For PXE to work, you need to have a ThinkPad with integrated ethernet. I think PXE is supported on all such ThinkPads, but am not 100% sure.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If you have Ethernet without PXE, you could use an [http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/ Etherboot] or [http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ nbgrub] floppy to network boot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For USB, you could also use a USB attached CD-ROM drive, or possibly even a USB memorykey, assuming the machine is recent enough that it has USB.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the hints. Added some statements that i hope can avoid some misunderstandings (USB). About PXE we'll have to find out. ;-) Also I'd like to get some definitive information about PCMCIA boot support in ThinkPads. It seems my TransNote supports this in general, but not with the HP burner i connected, while neither my X20 nor my T41p showed any option to boot from a CF card in a CF-to-PCMCIA converter.&lt;br /&gt;
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i still have problem with ntldr, anyway if i put harddrive from my HP laptop with preinstalled Windows XP, system boots up perfectly.&lt;br /&gt;
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Did you read [[How to setup boot loaders]]? What exactly is your problem? [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 21:14, 30 Oct 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a segment on installing via PXE, using Windows as a server, based on my recent experience doing just that on my Transnote.  I hope it's helpful; it's my first-ever Wiki submission, I tried to make it fit with the rest of the page.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:YakkoWarner|YakkoWarner]] 17:53, 16 Nov 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Which models allow booting from a USB Stick ==&lt;br /&gt;
Especially which X41 models? Thanks&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:15, 28 March 2006 (CEST):&lt;br /&gt;
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See [[Supported Boot Devices]] for that info.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 10:28, 29 March 2006 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Klinec</name></author>
		
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		<id>https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Installation_on_ThinkPads_without_CD-ROM_drive&amp;diff=21890</id>
		<title>Talk:Installation on ThinkPads without CD-ROM drive</title>
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		<updated>2006-04-23T11:21:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Klinec: 560z&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I created this article by putting together pieces of information from other sources, accompanied by what i remember from my various installation experiences. But i don't really have experience in any of the proposed procedures myself. So feel free to correct anything that's wrong or extend the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks, [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 17:36, 9 Jul 2005 (CEST).&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
== No CD drive, no floppy, no network card ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi I have ThinkPad 560z that has no CDrom, no floppy and no network card.&lt;br /&gt;
I tried to install over the network with 3Com PCMCIA card but it didn't work.&lt;br /&gt;
Laptop has an USB but it easy-setup doesn't support booting from it. &lt;br /&gt;
Any suggestions how to install a system onto it, without removing HDD?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks&lt;br /&gt;
==PXE ==&lt;br /&gt;
For PXE to work, you need to have a ThinkPad with integrated ethernet. I think PXE is supported on all such ThinkPads, but am not 100% sure.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If you have Ethernet without PXE, you could use an [http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/ Etherboot] or [http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ nbgrub] floppy to network boot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For USB, you could also use a USB attached CD-ROM drive, or possibly even a USB memorykey, assuming the machine is recent enough that it has USB.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the hints. Added some statements that i hope can avoid some misunderstandings (USB). About PXE we'll have to find out. ;-) Also I'd like to get some definitive information about PCMCIA boot support in ThinkPads. It seems my TransNote supports this in general, but not with the HP burner i connected, while neither my X20 nor my T41p showed any option to boot from a CF card in a CF-to-PCMCIA converter.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i still have problem with ntldr, anyway if i put harddrive from my HP laptop with preinstalled Windows XP, system boots up perfectly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Did you read [[How to setup boot loaders]]? What exactly is your problem? [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 21:14, 30 Oct 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I added a segment on installing via PXE, using Windows as a server, based on my recent experience doing just that on my Transnote.  I hope it's helpful; it's my first-ever Wiki submission, I tried to make it fit with the rest of the page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:YakkoWarner|YakkoWarner]] 17:53, 16 Nov 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Which models allow booting from a USB Stick ==&lt;br /&gt;
Especially which X41 models? Thanks&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Oub|Oub]] 17:15, 28 March 2006 (CEST):&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
See [[Supported Boot Devices]] for that info.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 10:28, 29 March 2006 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Klinec</name></author>
		
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