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		<id>https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Problem_with_DVI_throughput&amp;diff=21022</id>
		<title>Problem with DVI throughput</title>
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		<updated>2006-03-22T05:09:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jumpfroggy: updated info about patched ATI drivers&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Information about the DVI throughput problem on port replicators and docks with ThinkPads from approximately 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Problem description==&lt;br /&gt;
All ThinkPad port replicators and docking stations officially support a maximum resolution of 1280x1024 on the replicators/docks DVI port. Resolutions above were not supported in standard drivers at all for a long time and may lead to random screen corruption if used with modified or alternative drivers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unofficially, good DVI transmitters can support resolutions like 1600x1200 or 1920x1200 at 60Hz used in modern TFT monitors. However, not all DVI transmitters can push this resolution, due to poor signal quality from cheap manufacturing or weak TDMS transmitters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random screen corruption means that approximately 1 out of 5 times you will have a lot ot flickering blue and green pixels (roughly gathered to vertical stripes) on your DVI driven display. It is not entirely clear so far if the screen corruption problems are a driver or hardware problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You may also discover the phenomena of a blurred picture when having automatic picture expansion enabled on a higher resolution display. Switching this off should recover the picture quality.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Affected Models==&lt;br /&gt;
*ThinkPad {{A20p}}, {{A21p}}, {{A22p}}, {{A30}}, {{A30p}}, {{A31}}, {{A31p}}&lt;br /&gt;
*ThinkPad {{R40}}, {{R40e}}, {{R50}}, {{R50e}}, {{R50p}}, {{R51}}, {{R52}}&lt;br /&gt;
*ThinkPad {{T30}}, {{T40}}, {{T40p}}, {{T41}}, {{T41p}}, {{T42}}, {{T42p}}, {{T43}}, {{T43p}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*all port replicators and docking stations for these models&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Affected Operating Systems==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Linux, all flavours&lt;br /&gt;
*Windows, all flavours&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Status==&lt;br /&gt;
IBM knows about this and has included this limitation into the specs of all these docking solutions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is, however, possible to run higher resolutions on the DVI port. Linux supports this natively. The Windows drivers were limited in to 1280x1024 for a long time, but with the newest releases this limitation is gone for certain models.  However, depending on your display you can still experience the phenoma of random screen corruption.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The {{T42}} with the ATI 9600 chip is reported to be able to drive the Dell 24&amp;quot; 2405FPW at 1920x1200 using DVI by using ATI Catalyst drivers for Windows.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Recent IBM drivers (e.g. 2005 Aug 11 release, version 8.133.2-050525a-024243C-IBM) are also known to support resolutions of 1600x1200 ({{T41p}} with NEC 2180UX) and 1920x1200 ({{T42p}} and {{T41p}} with Dell 2405FPW) at 60Hz through the dock DVI port. This has been reported to not be the case with {{T40}}, {{T40p}}, and {{T41}} models.  For these models, use alternate drivers in the 'Solutions' section.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you experience flickering, try using a better or shorter DVI cable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If your transmitter cannot push this resolution, try fiddling with the 'reduced blanking' option (through your video card driver) or create a custom timing (with a lower refresh rate) in [http://www.entechtaiwan.com/ps.htm PowerStrip]. Note that both ways can reduce performance especially in fast refresh-sensitive work (reduced blanking less so though). For more information on TDMS transmission, see the  [http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041129/ DVI Compliance Testing article] at [http://www.tomshardware.com/ Tom's Hardware].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Very high resolution displays like the [http://www.apple.com/displays Apple 30&amp;quot; Cinema Display], with a 2560x1600 resolution, requires what is known as Dual-Link DVI [http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041129/tft_connection-06.html], a technique of piggybacking 2 DVI connections into one physical DVI plug. This is not to be confused with a card having 'Dual DVI', or two physical DVI ports. Very few video cards support Dual-Link DVI, and they are usually very expensive. No known PCI cards exist that support Dual-Link DVI. There is hope for users of large displays though - newer TDMS transmitters, such as the [http://www.siliconimage.com/products/product.aspx?id=4 SiI 1172], can push 225MHz and above through a single link, which is enough to drive 2560x1600 at 55Hz. These transmitters have not yet made it to many video cards - only the ASUS V9999GE card is known to use one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Solutions==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Linux===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Under Linux, you can in theory make use of higher resolutions. (This is currently limited by the unability of drivers to use the DVI port.) If screen corruption should occur, you can try fixing it by changing from X to the console and back. Doing this often helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Windows===&lt;br /&gt;
For certain models, the problem is solved with the newest video drivers from IBM. Just update.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For other models ({{T40}}, {{T40p}}, and {{T41}}), you must use alternate drivers to enable the higher resolutions.  You can use patched ATI driver sets like [http://www.dna-drivers.nl/ DNA-ATI] or [http://www.omegadrivers.net OMEGA] drivers, or you can download the latest drivers from www.ati.com and patch them with Patje's Mobility Modding tool found [http://www.driverheaven.net/patje/ here]. This tool solves the problem when used with Catalyst drivers from version 5.6.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you experience trouble getting the ATI Control Center to come up correctly when using these patched drivers, you can make a shortcut to the CLI.EXE file (ie. \program files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\CLI.EXE) to open it directly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The remaining problem with Windows is that IBMs practical Presentation Director utility still doesn't support the higher resolution. This issue is solvable by doing some manual modifications to Presentation Directors registry entries. If you don't want to tweak your registry you can use multi-res (packaged with the OMEGA drivers) instead of Presentation Director.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you want to use Presentation Director, follow this procedure:&lt;br /&gt;
* Add a profile with VGA output and set it to 1600x1200.&lt;br /&gt;
* Then you also add a profile with DVI output and set it to 1280x1024.&lt;br /&gt;
* After finishing the wizard you open regedit.&lt;br /&gt;
* Look for the Presentation directors key structure (HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/IBM/NPdirect/Data/Common/Presentation/Schemes) and&lt;br /&gt;
* copy the resolution value from the VGA profile to the DVI profile. (So if your VGA profiles name is VGAprof and the DVI profiles is DVIprof, you copy the Resolution keys value from HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/IBM/NPdirect/Data/Common/Presentation Schemes/VGAprof/01 to ....../DVIprof/01.)&lt;br /&gt;
* Close regedit (and eventually reboot) and restart Presentation Director.&lt;br /&gt;
* You should be have the wanted resolution in the properties of your DVI profile.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can also have Presentation Director automatically call a batch file that calls the multi-res application. The batch file will use multi-res to switch to one of the higher resolutions not supported by the Presentation Director. Mult-res can be found [http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/multires.shtm here].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Batch file example:&lt;br /&gt;
 multires.exe /1920,1200,32,60 /exit&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Problem_with_DVI_throughput&amp;diff=21021</id>
		<title>Talk:Problem with DVI throughput</title>
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		<updated>2006-03-22T05:00:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jumpfroggy: Figured out my control center issue, updated main page too&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Here's some information I found:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most DVI devices today use single-link DVI which supports a maximum bandwidth of 165 MHz [http://www.ddwg.org/dvi.html]. I suppose that ThinkPads provide a single-link DVI signal. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To calculate the bandwidth of your signal, in theory you just need to multiply the resolution with the vertical frequency. For example: 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz =&amp;gt; 1600*1200*85 Hz = 163 MHz. This looks good, but it is outside the specs - because you need to take into account some extra time. CRTs need a so-called ''blanking time'' between the data for two display lines. This time is needed for something similar to a carriage return on a typewriter: The electron beam needs to be returned to the start of the next line. Additionally, some extra time is needed to transmit information about the border area around the real picture. About 25% of the bandwidth is used for these additional data. [http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041129/tft_connection-04.html]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This means, that there is no specific ThinkPad problem with the throughput - you are just trying to transfer video data at a rate that is outside the specs of DVI. Maybe the DVI transmitter inside the ThinkPad even works at this data rate. But the DVI receiver inside the monitor might be &amp;quot;overclocked&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TFTs don't really need extra time. So there is a chance of writing a display driver with a reduced blanking time. This might explain, why some people were successful with other drivers. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The effective maximum resolution for single link DVI should be around 1600x1200 @ 65 Hz, or @ 60 Hz to be on the sure side. Has anyone solved his problems by lowering the vertical frequency?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:137.226.40.2|137.226.40.2]] 14:23, 1 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== No problem on T41p ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have a T41p with 1400x1040 LCD and a Samsung SyncMaster 213T connected through the Port Replicator II with DVI&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
After some windows registry hacks I can run the Samsung in 1600x1200 in single, clone display and extend display mode.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Linux requires no such hacks and will happily run at 1600x1200&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The picture through DVI is perfect with either desktop applications or running DVD video.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
This is good news.&lt;br /&gt;
Do you run Linux in DualHead, MergedFB or CloneMode?&lt;br /&gt;
In Windows you have a clear video overlay all the time (like after every boot)?&lt;br /&gt;
Which drivers are you using in Linux and Windows, please list the with version numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:217.230.177.126|217.230.177.126]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==Question about DVI/LCD switching on T4x / Radeon M9 / Linux==&lt;br /&gt;
Has anyone been able to successfully switch back and forth between the LCD output and the Port Replicator II DVI output on Linux? How do you do it? My problem is described below:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-320973-highlight-.html]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== No problems here ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I installed the new catalyst drivers 5.6 using Patje's Mobility Moddingand it works for all resolutions. My laptop runs at 1400x1060 and my dvi screen at 1920x1200.&lt;br /&gt;
No problems that I can tell. The omega drivers (based on older catalyst drivers) blue screened my windows xp on boot.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the info, it is a while since i tested with Catalyst and back then it didn't allow 1400x1050.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Corruption and Flickering on T43 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No problems changing to 1600x1200 @60Hz on DVI passthrough using stock ATI drivers (6.14.10) and IBM presentation director on T43 and port replicator II. However the image is not stable - green dot artifacts flicker in approximately horizontal lines, while the screen blanks in and out. Completely stable at 1280x1024. Changing to the Omega drivers did not help at all. Also replacing ATI with Omega drivers somehow removed the presentation director key binding Fn-F7 and I had to reinstall it to get it back. Monitor is NEC AccuSync 200VX. Tried what appeared to be both single and dual-link DVI cables (not sure about monitor or port replicator support for dual-link).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just tried the same setup while replacing the NEC monitor with a Planar PL2010M. The Planar LCD gives a completely stable image at 1600x1200.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
UPDATE: I was able to get a stable 1600x1200 image on the NEC panel by going into the ATI Catalyst Control Center (downloadable as standalone program from ATI webpage) and &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;unchecking&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Reduce DVI frequency on high-resolution displays&amp;quot; which was on by default. The &amp;quot;Alternate DVI operational mode&amp;quot; option seems to have no effect either way. I'm guessing &amp;quot;Reduce DVI frequency&amp;quot; changes to 50 Hz or something, and &amp;quot;Aleternate DVI operational mode&amp;quot; is the reduced blanking time, but who knows with ATI's ambiguous descriptions. In any case it's interesting that the fixes mentioned on this page actually cause trouble on the NEC display, while taking away the &amp;quot;fixes&amp;quot; makes the problem go away.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--Aeyea&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It's interesting, indeed, since it's quite illogical. Did you try the newest official IBM drivers? They worked out of the box for me and at least one other person. On a T41p with a NEC 2180UX that is. I think the &amp;quot;Reduce DVI frequency&amp;quot; changes to 60 Hz, which is supposed to be ideal for DVI TFTs, but that may in fact vary.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 01:43, 27 Oct 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I haven't, as far as I know, tried the newest IBM drivers for the Radeon X300 - dated 2005-02-11 on Lenovo's website. I just did an install of ATI Catalyst 5.11 with the included control center. This installation actually requires a hack (http://www.driverheaven.net/patje/) for mobile devices. But in any case, the NEC LCD200VX still requires &amp;quot;Reduce DVI Frequency&amp;quot; to be unchecked in the ATI Control Center to avoid artifacts and instability. I would guess that the IBM drives also have this option enabled by default, so probably they would not work on this particular display without changing the settings, but I don't know for sure. I did take a look at the monitor's OSD info. In both cases, with and without &amp;quot;reduce DVI frequency&amp;quot; checked the OSD reports running at 1600x1200 at 75kHz horiz, 60Hz vertical. I'd really like to know what this setting does, then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Aeyea|Aeyea]] 21:07, 15 Nov 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Funny thing I just discovered that having the option &amp;quot;Alternate DVI operational mode&amp;quot; enabled causes small artifacts on the NEC screen. These are little red and blue pixels or clusters of pixels that light up here and there - most visible on a totally black screen. So enabling the &amp;quot;Reduce DVI frequency&amp;quot; option causes screen blanking in and out (very disturbing), and enabling &amp;quot;Alternate DVI operational mode&amp;quot; causes small artifacts (almost unnoticeable).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Aeyea|Aeyea]] 17:10, 16 Nov 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== Single-link DVI ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No thinkpads are currently capable of supporting dual-link DVI natively.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Single link is limited to 165MHz, while dual link has double that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1600x1200x60=115200000Hz or 115.2MHz (assuming no blanking space), so in theory that should not be a problem, but in practice there might be additional limitations, such as the quality of the video controller and the passthrough to the dock or port replicator.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The IBM video drivers have always limited DVI output to 1280x1024, probably due to these issues.&lt;br /&gt;
Some people have had success hacking the drivers (or using alternative drivers), and going up to 1920x1200, but other people get corruption already at 1600x1200.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1920x1200x60=138240000Hz or 138.24MHz&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== X40? ==&lt;br /&gt;
The article says the X40 is affected by this issue---how is that?  Are there any X40 docs or adapters that give the X40 DVI capability at all?&lt;br /&gt;
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Right, removed them from the listing. [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 22:08, 25 Sep 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== List of affected models is totally incorrect ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just because a ThinkPad is compatible with a Dock or Port Replicator that has a DVI port, does not mean you can actually use it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, NONE of the T2x or X series ThinkPads can do DVI, and there are probably others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 02:04, 26 Sep 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Latest IBM Drivers Don't Support 1600x1200 on all models ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The latest ThinkPad video driver, 2005 Aug 11 release, version 8.133.2-050525a-024243C-IBM, does *not* appear&lt;br /&gt;
to support 1600x1200 mode on a T41 (not T41p) out of the box when using the MiniDock and an NEC 2080UX display.&lt;br /&gt;
The Display Properties-&amp;gt;Setting tab allows 1600x1200 pixels to be selected, but the display is driven&lt;br /&gt;
at 1280x1024. Patched Catalyst drivers from ATI have been working just fine on the T41 for 1600x1200 with only a&lt;br /&gt;
few DVI driver issues (flying green pixels) on applications like Celestia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As I have tested several T4Xp models, it seems that after T41p (like model 2373-GHG) the DVI throughput problem has been solved by IBM using latest drivers (video and presentation director) running Windows XP, however, my users have reported &amp;quot;flickering&amp;quot; on screens randomly (like Dell 20&amp;quot; and 24&amp;quot;) and that seems to be solved by using better cables. Don't expect to be able to extend or use very long cables! ((Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the T40p model has been making trouble for me.))&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Issues with the Wiki</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Issues_with_the_Wiki&amp;diff=20935"/>
		<updated>2006-03-16T23:03:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jumpfroggy: /* Troubles encountered */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This page is a provisorium. It's a list of things that are going wrong after the update to help [[User:akw|Akw]] track and fix them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Troubles encountered ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ThinkWiki:SpamBlackList]] does not appear to work anymore&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 03:40, 11 March 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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You can't (easliy do a multiline {{cmdresult|cmdresult}}, can you? See:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&lt;br /&gt;
bar&lt;br /&gt;
baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
or&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&lt;br /&gt;
  bar (after whitespace)&lt;br /&gt;
  baz (after whitespace)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This works (but is not so nice)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bar (after empty line)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
baz (after empty line)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any suggestions?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Pebolle|Paul Bolle]] 10:27, 24 January 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the best way is to use single cmdresult calls for each line and prefix them with a colon. Like so:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|foo}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|bar}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;, which results in&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|foo}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|bar}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternatively, you can use &amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt; at the ende of each line within one call, like this:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cmdresult|foo&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
bar&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
baz}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
, which will result in&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
bar&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 12:13, 24 January 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have just got a MySQL problem when I edited a page, a query was not to its liking. It is quite easy to reproduce, just edit any page ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
History did get updated, and the page was also updated, so I have no idea what broke when that query failed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:&lt;br /&gt;
 (SQL query hidden)&lt;br /&gt;
 from within function &amp;quot;SearchMySQL4::update&amp;quot;. MySQL returned error &amp;quot;1062: Duplicate entry ' ' for key 3 (localhost)&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Hmh|hmh]] 2006-02-17, 20:12 UTC&lt;br /&gt;
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More database problems, this time the search function:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:&lt;br /&gt;
 (SQL query hidden)&lt;br /&gt;
 from within function &amp;quot;&amp;quot;. MySQL returned error &amp;quot;145: Table './thinkwiki/searchindex' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost)&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Hmh|hmh]] 2006-02-21, 15:07 UTC&lt;br /&gt;
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The server time would appear to be off a lot, is it possible to setup ntpd, or to run ntpdate every hour or so using cron?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 05:11, 22 February 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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Search still seems broken, searching for DVI brings up nothing.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Jumpfroggy|Jumpfroggy]] 00:03, 17 March 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Troubles confirmed ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Special:Benchmarks]] doesn't find it's data&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Fixed problems ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://thinkwiki.org/ reverted again to the default MediaWiki theme. '''Cannot reproduce this one (15.01.06, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* File upload is disabled - '''Argh. Fixed (15.01.06, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* URL contains index.php(/) before the actual page name - '''This has been fixed (28.05.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* The categories page doesn't link to [[:Category:ThinkWiki]] - '''Fixed (29.05.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* http://thinkwiki.org/ is broken (no www prefix), this was working before - '''Fixed (29.05.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* On logging in a requester pops up asking to confirm a password change - '''seems like it's implicitly been fixed (29.05.2005, wyrfel)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* In Navigation bar, &amp;quot;&amp;amp;amp;lt;download&amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;quot; leads to [http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/--error:_link_target_missing--] - '''fixed (30.06.2005)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* direct link to [[:Category:Models]] missing in Navigation '''Fixed (10.07.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* It seems the Wiki has trouble updating the edit history, i'm getting mysql query errors on saving pages. The pages get saved, however. '''Fixed (12.05.2005)'''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jumpfroggy</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Issues_with_the_Wiki&amp;diff=20934</id>
		<title>Issues with the Wiki</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Issues_with_the_Wiki&amp;diff=20934"/>
		<updated>2006-03-16T22:57:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jumpfroggy: My question was obsolete, reverted&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This page is a provisorium. It's a list of things that are going wrong after the update to help [[User:akw|Akw]] track and fix them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Troubles encountered ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ThinkWiki:SpamBlackList]] does not appear to work anymore&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 03:40, 11 March 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
You can't (easliy do a multiline {{cmdresult|cmdresult}}, can you? See:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&lt;br /&gt;
bar&lt;br /&gt;
baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
or&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&lt;br /&gt;
  bar (after whitespace)&lt;br /&gt;
  baz (after whitespace)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This works (but is not so nice)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bar (after empty line)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
baz (after empty line)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any suggestions?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Pebolle|Paul Bolle]] 10:27, 24 January 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
I think the best way is to use single cmdresult calls for each line and prefix them with a colon. Like so:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|foo}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|bar}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;, which results in&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|foo}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|bar}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternatively, you can use &amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt; at the ende of each line within one call, like this:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cmdresult|foo&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
bar&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
baz}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
, which will result in&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
bar&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 12:13, 24 January 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
I have just got a MySQL problem when I edited a page, a query was not to its liking. It is quite easy to reproduce, just edit any page ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
History did get updated, and the page was also updated, so I have no idea what broke when that query failed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:&lt;br /&gt;
 (SQL query hidden)&lt;br /&gt;
 from within function &amp;quot;SearchMySQL4::update&amp;quot;. MySQL returned error &amp;quot;1062: Duplicate entry ' ' for key 3 (localhost)&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Hmh|hmh]] 2006-02-17, 20:12 UTC&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
More database problems, this time the search function:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:&lt;br /&gt;
 (SQL query hidden)&lt;br /&gt;
 from within function &amp;quot;&amp;quot;. MySQL returned error &amp;quot;145: Table './thinkwiki/searchindex' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost)&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Hmh|hmh]] 2006-02-21, 15:07 UTC&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
The server time would appear to be off a lot, is it possible to setup ntpd, or to run ntpdate every hour or so using cron?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 05:11, 22 February 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
== Troubles confirmed ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Special:Benchmarks]] doesn't find it's data&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Fixed problems ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://thinkwiki.org/ reverted again to the default MediaWiki theme. '''Cannot reproduce this one (15.01.06, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* File upload is disabled - '''Argh. Fixed (15.01.06, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* URL contains index.php(/) before the actual page name - '''This has been fixed (28.05.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* The categories page doesn't link to [[:Category:ThinkWiki]] - '''Fixed (29.05.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* http://thinkwiki.org/ is broken (no www prefix), this was working before - '''Fixed (29.05.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* On logging in a requester pops up asking to confirm a password change - '''seems like it's implicitly been fixed (29.05.2005, wyrfel)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* In Navigation bar, &amp;quot;&amp;amp;amp;lt;download&amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;quot; leads to [http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/--error:_link_target_missing--] - '''fixed (30.06.2005)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* direct link to [[:Category:Models]] missing in Navigation '''Fixed (10.07.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* It seems the Wiki has trouble updating the edit history, i'm getting mysql query errors on saving pages. The pages get saved, however. '''Fixed (12.05.2005)'''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jumpfroggy</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jumpfroggy&amp;diff=20933</id>
		<title>User:Jumpfroggy</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jumpfroggy&amp;diff=20933"/>
		<updated>2006-03-16T22:56:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jumpfroggy: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Currently owns a T40, trying to figure out [[Problem with DVI throughput]] with the dock at high res (IBM Drivers don't help).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Special:Watchlist]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jumpfroggy</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Issues_with_the_Wiki&amp;diff=20930</id>
		<title>Issues with the Wiki</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Issues_with_the_Wiki&amp;diff=20930"/>
		<updated>2006-03-16T22:54:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jumpfroggy: We need a &amp;quot;watched pages&amp;quot; link somewhere&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This page is a provisorium. It's a list of things that are going wrong after the update to help [[User:akw|Akw]] track and fix them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Troubles encountered ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ThinkWiki:SpamBlackList]] does not appear to work anymore&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 03:40, 11 March 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
You can't (easliy do a multiline {{cmdresult|cmdresult}}, can you? See:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&lt;br /&gt;
bar&lt;br /&gt;
baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
or&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&lt;br /&gt;
  bar (after whitespace)&lt;br /&gt;
  baz (after whitespace)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This works (but is not so nice)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bar (after empty line)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
baz (after empty line)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any suggestions?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Pebolle|Paul Bolle]] 10:27, 24 January 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
I think the best way is to use single cmdresult calls for each line and prefix them with a colon. Like so:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|foo}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|bar}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;, which results in&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|foo}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|bar}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cmdresult|baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternatively, you can use &amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt; at the ende of each line within one call, like this:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cmdresult|foo&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
bar&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
baz}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
, which will result in&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{cmdresult|foo&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
bar&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
baz}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 12:13, 24 January 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
I have just got a MySQL problem when I edited a page, a query was not to its liking. It is quite easy to reproduce, just edit any page ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
History did get updated, and the page was also updated, so I have no idea what broke when that query failed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:&lt;br /&gt;
 (SQL query hidden)&lt;br /&gt;
 from within function &amp;quot;SearchMySQL4::update&amp;quot;. MySQL returned error &amp;quot;1062: Duplicate entry ' ' for key 3 (localhost)&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Hmh|hmh]] 2006-02-17, 20:12 UTC&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
More database problems, this time the search function:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:&lt;br /&gt;
 (SQL query hidden)&lt;br /&gt;
 from within function &amp;quot;&amp;quot;. MySQL returned error &amp;quot;145: Table './thinkwiki/searchindex' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost)&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Hmh|hmh]] 2006-02-21, 15:07 UTC&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
The server time would appear to be off a lot, is it possible to setup ntpd, or to run ntpdate every hour or so using cron?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 05:11, 22 February 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
'''Need Watched Pages link'''&lt;br /&gt;
Where is the &amp;quot;Watched Pages&amp;quot; link found?  So far I've only seen in on the confirmation page after you've clicked on the &amp;quot;watch&amp;quot; tab of a page.  It'd be a good thing to have on the left-hand nav, right under (or above) &amp;quot;Recent changes&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Jumpfroggy|Jumpfroggy]] 23:54, 16 March 2006 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Troubles confirmed ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Special:Benchmarks]] doesn't find it's data&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Fixed problems ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://thinkwiki.org/ reverted again to the default MediaWiki theme. '''Cannot reproduce this one (15.01.06, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* File upload is disabled - '''Argh. Fixed (15.01.06, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* URL contains index.php(/) before the actual page name - '''This has been fixed (28.05.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* The categories page doesn't link to [[:Category:ThinkWiki]] - '''Fixed (29.05.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* http://thinkwiki.org/ is broken (no www prefix), this was working before - '''Fixed (29.05.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* On logging in a requester pops up asking to confirm a password change - '''seems like it's implicitly been fixed (29.05.2005, wyrfel)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* In Navigation bar, &amp;quot;&amp;amp;amp;lt;download&amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;quot; leads to [http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/--error:_link_target_missing--] - '''fixed (30.06.2005)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* direct link to [[:Category:Models]] missing in Navigation '''Fixed (10.07.05, akw)'''&lt;br /&gt;
* It seems the Wiki has trouble updating the edit history, i'm getting mysql query errors on saving pages. The pages get saved, however. '''Fixed (12.05.2005)'''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jumpfroggy</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Problem_with_DVI_throughput&amp;diff=20911</id>
		<title>Talk:Problem with DVI throughput</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Problem_with_DVI_throughput&amp;diff=20911"/>
		<updated>2006-03-16T00:28:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jumpfroggy: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Here's some information I found:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most DVI devices today use single-link DVI which supports a maximum bandwidth of 165 MHz [http://www.ddwg.org/dvi.html]. I suppose that ThinkPads provide a single-link DVI signal. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To calculate the bandwidth of your signal, in theory you just need to multiply the resolution with the vertical frequency. For example: 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz =&amp;gt; 1600*1200*85 Hz = 163 MHz. This looks good, but it is outside the specs - because you need to take into account some extra time. CRTs need a so-called ''blanking time'' between the data for two display lines. This time is needed for something similar to a carriage return on a typewriter: The electron beam needs to be returned to the start of the next line. Additionally, some extra time is needed to transmit information about the border area around the real picture. About 25% of the bandwidth is used for these additional data. [http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041129/tft_connection-04.html]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This means, that there is no specific ThinkPad problem with the throughput - you are just trying to transfer video data at a rate that is outside the specs of DVI. Maybe the DVI transmitter inside the ThinkPad even works at this data rate. But the DVI receiver inside the monitor might be &amp;quot;overclocked&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TFTs don't really need extra time. So there is a chance of writing a display driver with a reduced blanking time. This might explain, why some people were successful with other drivers. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The effective maximum resolution for single link DVI should be around 1600x1200 @ 65 Hz, or @ 60 Hz to be on the sure side. Has anyone solved his problems by lowering the vertical frequency?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:137.226.40.2|137.226.40.2]] 14:23, 1 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== No problem on T41p ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have a T41p with 1400x1040 LCD and a Samsung SyncMaster 213T connected through the Port Replicator II with DVI&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
After some windows registry hacks I can run the Samsung in 1600x1200 in single, clone display and extend display mode.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Linux requires no such hacks and will happily run at 1600x1200&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The picture through DVI is perfect with either desktop applications or running DVD video.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
This is good news.&lt;br /&gt;
Do you run Linux in DualHead, MergedFB or CloneMode?&lt;br /&gt;
In Windows you have a clear video overlay all the time (like after every boot)?&lt;br /&gt;
Which drivers are you using in Linux and Windows, please list the with version numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:217.230.177.126|217.230.177.126]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Question about DVI/LCD switching on T4x / Radeon M9 / Linux==&lt;br /&gt;
Has anyone been able to successfully switch back and forth between the LCD output and the Port Replicator II DVI output on Linux? How do you do it? My problem is described below:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-320973-highlight-.html]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== No problems here ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I installed the new catalyst drivers 5.6 using Patje's Mobility Moddingand it works for all resolutions. My laptop runs at 1400x1060 and my dvi screen at 1920x1200.&lt;br /&gt;
No problems that I can tell. The omega drivers (based on older catalyst drivers) blue screened my windows xp on boot.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the info, it is a while since i tested with Catalyst and back then it didn't allow 1400x1050.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Corruption and Flickering on T43 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No problems changing to 1600x1200 @60Hz on DVI passthrough using stock ATI drivers (6.14.10) and IBM presentation director on T43 and port replicator II. However the image is not stable - green dot artifacts flicker in approximately horizontal lines, while the screen blanks in and out. Completely stable at 1280x1024. Changing to the Omega drivers did not help at all. Also replacing ATI with Omega drivers somehow removed the presentation director key binding Fn-F7 and I had to reinstall it to get it back. Monitor is NEC AccuSync 200VX. Tried what appeared to be both single and dual-link DVI cables (not sure about monitor or port replicator support for dual-link).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just tried the same setup while replacing the NEC monitor with a Planar PL2010M. The Planar LCD gives a completely stable image at 1600x1200.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
UPDATE: I was able to get a stable 1600x1200 image on the NEC panel by going into the ATI Catalyst Control Center (downloadable as standalone program from ATI webpage) and &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;unchecking&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Reduce DVI frequency on high-resolution displays&amp;quot; which was on by default. The &amp;quot;Alternate DVI operational mode&amp;quot; option seems to have no effect either way. I'm guessing &amp;quot;Reduce DVI frequency&amp;quot; changes to 50 Hz or something, and &amp;quot;Aleternate DVI operational mode&amp;quot; is the reduced blanking time, but who knows with ATI's ambiguous descriptions. In any case it's interesting that the fixes mentioned on this page actually cause trouble on the NEC display, while taking away the &amp;quot;fixes&amp;quot; makes the problem go away.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--Aeyea&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It's interesting, indeed, since it's quite illogical. Did you try the newest official IBM drivers? They worked out of the box for me and at least one other person. On a T41p with a NEC 2180UX that is. I think the &amp;quot;Reduce DVI frequency&amp;quot; changes to 60 Hz, which is supposed to be ideal for DVI TFTs, but that may in fact vary.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 01:43, 27 Oct 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I haven't, as far as I know, tried the newest IBM drivers for the Radeon X300 - dated 2005-02-11 on Lenovo's website. I just did an install of ATI Catalyst 5.11 with the included control center. This installation actually requires a hack (http://www.driverheaven.net/patje/) for mobile devices. But in any case, the NEC LCD200VX still requires &amp;quot;Reduce DVI Frequency&amp;quot; to be unchecked in the ATI Control Center to avoid artifacts and instability. I would guess that the IBM drives also have this option enabled by default, so probably they would not work on this particular display without changing the settings, but I don't know for sure. I did take a look at the monitor's OSD info. In both cases, with and without &amp;quot;reduce DVI frequency&amp;quot; checked the OSD reports running at 1600x1200 at 75kHz horiz, 60Hz vertical. I'd really like to know what this setting does, then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Aeyea|Aeyea]] 21:07, 15 Nov 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Funny thing I just discovered that having the option &amp;quot;Alternate DVI operational mode&amp;quot; enabled causes small artifacts on the NEC screen. These are little red and blue pixels or clusters of pixels that light up here and there - most visible on a totally black screen. So enabling the &amp;quot;Reduce DVI frequency&amp;quot; option causes screen blanking in and out (very disturbing), and enabling &amp;quot;Alternate DVI operational mode&amp;quot; causes small artifacts (almost unnoticeable).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Aeyea|Aeyea]] 17:10, 16 Nov 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Single-link DVI ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No thinkpads are currently capable of supporting dual-link DVI natively.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Single link is limited to 165MHz, while dual link has double that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1600x1200x60=115200000Hz or 115.2MHz (assuming no blanking space), so in theory that should not be a problem, but in practice there might be additional limitations, such as the quality of the video controller and the passthrough to the dock or port replicator.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The IBM video drivers have always limited DVI output to 1280x1024, probably due to these issues.&lt;br /&gt;
Some people have had success hacking the drivers (or using alternative drivers), and going up to 1920x1200, but other people get corruption already at 1600x1200.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1920x1200x60=138240000Hz or 138.24MHz&lt;br /&gt;
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== X40? ==&lt;br /&gt;
The article says the X40 is affected by this issue---how is that?  Are there any X40 docs or adapters that give the X40 DVI capability at all?&lt;br /&gt;
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Right, removed them from the listing. [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 22:08, 25 Sep 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== List of affected models is totally incorrect ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just because a ThinkPad is compatible with a Dock or Port Replicator that has a DVI port, does not mean you can actually use it.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, NONE of the T2x or X series ThinkPads can do DVI, and there are probably others.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 02:04, 26 Sep 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Latest IBM Drivers Don't Support 1600x1200 on all models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The latest ThinkPad video driver, 2005 Aug 11 release, version 8.133.2-050525a-024243C-IBM, does *not* appear&lt;br /&gt;
to support 1600x1200 mode on a T41 (not T41p) out of the box when using the MiniDock and an NEC 2080UX display.&lt;br /&gt;
The Display Properties-&amp;gt;Setting tab allows 1600x1200 pixels to be selected, but the display is driven&lt;br /&gt;
at 1280x1024. Patched Catalyst drivers from ATI have been working just fine on the T41 for 1600x1200 with only a&lt;br /&gt;
few DVI driver issues (flying green pixels) on applications like Celestia.&lt;br /&gt;
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As I have tested several T4Xp models, it seems that after T41p (like model 2373-GHG) the DVI throughput problem has been solved by IBM using latest drivers (video and presentation director) running Windows XP, however, my users have reported &amp;quot;flickering&amp;quot; on screens randomly (like Dell 20&amp;quot; and 24&amp;quot;) and that seems to be solved by using better cables. Don't expect to be able to extend or use very long cables! ((Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the T40p model has been making trouble for me.))&lt;br /&gt;
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I just tried with a T40, the latest drivers (8.133.2) do not fix the problem as the above author stated (who wrote that?  Sign your posts!).  I used the &amp;quot;Patje's Mobility Modding tool&amp;quot; link on the page, it worked to install the Catalyst 6.3 drivers.  However, I cannot get the Catylst Control Center to come up?  The CLI.EXE file is running 3 times in the background (one of which is the system tray icon), but the Control Center does not show at all.  I can use the system tray icon to enable the second display (DVI for me) and change the resolution.  I cannot use it to set the primary display or disable the laptop LCD.  Has anyone in a similar situation been able to use the control center?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Jumpfroggy|Jumpfroggy]] 01:28, 16 March 2006 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;why would a Google search work better? Is there something broken about the search engine? If it does work better, why not hack the search box in the template to just use Google to search the site then?&lt;br /&gt;
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I just searched for &amp;quot;DVI&amp;quot;.  Doesn't show anything, although what I'm trying to find is the [[Problem with DVI throughput]] article.  Seems like it's broken.  [[User:Jumpfroggy|Jumpfroggy]] 01:18, 16 March 2006 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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