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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;58.237.232.104: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;There are at least two different forms of date notation used on the main page. &lt;br /&gt;
One way should be picked. I would suggest ISO standard YYYY-MM-DD&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html&lt;br /&gt;
-David Mattli &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The main page of ThinkWiki is not protected, so feel free to edit it. But do it with caution - it's the primary connection to the all content of our '''ThinkWiki''' ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 00:11, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I added to wikipedia-like templates. To edit them go to Template:ThinkWiki_Preamble and Template:ThinkWiki_News.&lt;br /&gt;
Shall we put the other parts of the page in templates, too? If we do so, we could have that nice block design from wikipedia on our mainpage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 11:37, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this is too much color. Makes it less readable, takes longer to orientate than the plain list style layout.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Liked it with only the two blocks in the beginning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we want to use blocks for everything, please stick to fewer colors. I think the yellow of the first block is not bad, and else i'd suggest light grey, maybe light blue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, if we stick to having all in blocks, how about [[User:Wyrfel/mainlayouttest | this color scheme]]?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 16:35, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Made [[User:Wyrfel/mainlayouttest-LTP | another Mainpage layout sketch]]. This tries to resemble the Tux and IBM logo colors and therefor looks quite &amp;quot;fresh&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 18:59, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Too colorful for my taste, I think the other one is better --[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 19:46, 28 Sep 2004 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Important change:''' Moved Main_Page to ThinkWiki for cosmetical reasons..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 16:54, 26 Sep 2004 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Needed: older ThinkPad specs... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As you can tell by my userid here, I've got a 600E. There are a whole lot of them out there thanks to the fact it was the current model during the Dot-Com era. We should cover the older ThinkPads and their quirks as well as the later models. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I also had a 365X, which is now living with a friend in the UK.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, the next ThinkPad I'll probably score is a T4x, they are really kewl machines and inspire technolust in this geek. But until then, I love my 600E and I'm looking forward to some upgrades this weekend. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I will make copious notes on the upgrade process, which will include the installation of a 40GB hard drive and using the stock 10GB drive as extra Windows storage space. I have a hard drive bay module so the stock drive can be reused. The vast majority of the HD will be given over to an install of Debian Linux, with a 7GB Windows 2K partition because the University I will be attending a year from now demands it. (Yeah, I know, sucks, doesn't it.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ThinkPad different,&lt;br /&gt;
Michelle&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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I totally agree.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All specs of all models can be found on the IBM support pages, we just need volunteers to transfer the infos into internal pages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since this is not the most interesting thing to do and hence it would be best if people using older ThinkPads transfer the specs for their models themselves. The same goes for other articles as installation infos, problems or whatever. I had a 570 once and loved it even though T30s where available at the same time...and i'd like to see more about these machines here, which everyone of them had some special characteristics and ideas behind them. So please show up, proud owners of Thinkpad 730TEs. 701s, 360Ps, Transnotes etc. ... ! ;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Owners of the newer machines should take care of writing their articles (especially when creating new pages or sections) in a way that they are open for older models as well...i.e. make clear in the page or section title that its a specific topic for newer models.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:45, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just inserted [[Special:Benchmarks|Benchmarks]] into the main menu.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 14:07, 15 Oct 2004 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I replaced the old logo with the great new one crafted by [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 14:22, 1 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The new logo is too large to fit the sidebar. I can only see the yellow center with the ThinkWiki text and the left foot of Tux. I am using 1024x768 resolution and Opera.  --[[User:137.226.40.2|137.226.40.2]] 14:37, 1 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Firefox the rest of the logo appears overlaid over the page frame. Interesting, that Opera doesn't do this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, we'll fix this soon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 19:57, 1 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, I am using Firefox and I only see half of Tux without any overlay. I guess I'll wait for the fix :-) --[[User:80.146.81.192|80.146.81.192]] 21:33, 1 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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Strange, it works with firefox and epiphany for me. I'll fix it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, now the smaller logo image is online. Looks nice for me :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 22:15, 1 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Main Page now protected ===&lt;br /&gt;
I had to protect the mainpage from editing because of vandalism.&lt;br /&gt;
Everyone who wants to add something to the mainpage is asked to post it here, the admins ([[User:Akw|akw]],&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]]) will insert it into the mainpage. You can also [[ThinkWiki:Contact|contact us]] to make your suggestions!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We're sorry for inconvenience. :-(&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 10:20, 2 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hei Arno,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i tried to do some stuff with templates, but it seems like templates in this version of MediaWiki are lacking some features and also seem a bit buggy (or i want too much). Is it troublesome to update to 1.4rc1? Shell we wait for the stable?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 01:09, 14 Mar 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Updates todo ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== MediaWiki Update ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I updated the thinkwiki software to version mediawiki 1.4.4. I hope this update will not be too painful.&lt;br /&gt;
There is still a problem with URL rewriting, so I had to deactivate the .htaccess file. Because of this, we got this ugly URLS with this '''index.php''' before the entry. The problem seems to be with the wiki config file '''LocalSettings.php''' and/or the '''.htaccess''' file.&lt;br /&gt;
I hope I get it fixed soon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Thinkpad and Apple Cinema 20' ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have a thinkpad R50. I have det required docking station with DVI.&lt;br /&gt;
If i try to boot my computer from the docking station nothing happends - it seems that it freezes up.&lt;br /&gt;
The only way i can get the monitor to work is:&lt;br /&gt;
1. boot the computer disconnected from the docking.&lt;br /&gt;
2. when the computer has booted i place it on the docking station. Then i works!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do you know how to solve the problem. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hope to hear from you.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Try changing the bootup display settings in the BIOS. Are you talking about Linux or Windows?&lt;br /&gt;
== Spelling: HOWTOs ==&lt;br /&gt;
Could anyone be so kind to correct &amp;quot;Howto's&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Howtos&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
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Done. [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 12:00, 2 Aug 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ThinkPad Buyers guide ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It would be cool is there was a buyer guide to 2nd hand think pads.&lt;br /&gt;
 - For people wishing to join in by gettine there own thingpad!!&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a bit hard to accomplish. Remember that ThinkWiki is a site with international scope. What makes sense (in my opinion) is a page that has some notes and hints about what to care for, what are weak parts etc. . But it wouldn't make much sense to create a list of sites where to get them. Or maybe that's just what you meant. ;-) I'll look into creating some infrastructure for that on occasion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 03:02, 11 Aug 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== T43 and Embedded Visual C++ ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Has anyone successfully gotten T34 and Embedded Visual C++ to work?&lt;br /&gt;
I could install the necessary softwares but when test is done using the 'Hello World!' program, the system just restarts itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
regards,&lt;br /&gt;
Ponce&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== This is a great general resource for ANY Thinkpad user ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The promoted Linux-centricity is a minus, IMO.  Regardless of the density of Linux content currently extant, the Linux focus seems exclusionary and probably drives away a lot of thinkpad users with useful content to add.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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IBM probably has the best support website in the industry (albeit somewhat difficult to navigate), therefore ANY ThinkPad user may find general information there. The good thing about ThinkWiki is that it caters to a specific need, namely the (often difficult) task of installing the linux operating system on ThinkPad notebooks.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:MJK|MJK]] 14:54, 14 Sep 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to agree with MJK. ThinkWikis clear focus is Linux on ThinkPads. IBM provides pretty good support for Windows users, i.e. it wouldn't make sense to double driver listings and such here, since what IBM provides in this area is sufficient. What we can do, however, and what we are already doing here, is to provide additional information for Windows users as well. That's why we introduced Windows as one of our listed distributions and that's also why you find Windows related information scattered around the place. Linux users are searching Windows related ThinkPad sites for information that might be useful for their Linux installations. Let Windows users do the same the other way around. I'll add a little hint to the main page, but we won't change the primary focus. At least not now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 19:24, 15 Sep 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== TODO and FIXME templates? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Could a special way to add TODOs and FIXMEs to pages (maybe a template or whatever - I'm not to familiair with Wiki technologies) be considered? I'd like to add some TODOs and FIXMEs but would like to do that in a standardized way ...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Pebolle|Paul Bolle]] 22:42, 29 Sep 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Good point, i'll create templates. [[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:25, 30 Sep 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, did some of it. There are Stub, Todo and Fixme templates now. Also, pages tagged with these templates will be categorized in [[:Category:NeedsEditing]]. Todo and Fixme should be used within sections and take one parameter, which should be a job description. Stub should only be used at the very beginning of a page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 01:52, 30 Sep 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nitpicking ==&lt;br /&gt;
Navigation bar: please s/\(Think\)p\(ad\)/\1P\2/g&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Search bar: either drop Go or drop Search (they are equal, aren't they?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How to read ThinkWiki seems to be better of as a normal entry in the first (upper left) table (and not as a &amp;quot;minor&amp;quot; item in the HOWTOs table).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would suggest to make ThinkPad models (now a &amp;quot;minor&amp;quot; item in Hardware) the first entry in Hardware.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Pebolle|Paul Bolle]] 21:13, 8 Oct 2005 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I am looking for some t series users for our beta program.  Plese contact mtippett@ati.com.&lt;br /&gt;
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==A Forum?==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm just curious if the idea of a public forum (using phpBB, SMF, whatever) has ever been considered. I think this would be excellent add-on to complement the Wiki. It'd make asking questions for guests and member's alike easier, and possibly afterwards the answers could be contributed into the article. Just an idea. --[[User:DuffDudeX1|DuffDudeX1]] 20:45, 31 Oct 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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There are ThinkPad Forums already, i.e. look at the [[Links]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Moreover, there's the linux-thinkpad [[Mailinglists|mailinglist]] that serves this purpose. ThinkWiki's role is rather to complement that mailing list with a more static way of gathering information and to be found more easily.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 23:54, 31 Oct 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, thanks for pointing that out, I didn't even notice the links page, I'll have to take a look.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:DuffDudeX1|DuffDudeX1]] 00:04, 1 Nov 2005 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Nice skin, folks... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We'd like to steal it, for our geographically local wiki, if no one minds.  What pieces would we need for that?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;--baylink@wp, etc; jra@baylink.com&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Help:Reading</title>
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		<updated>2005-12-27T03:45:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;58.237.232.104: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{| width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This page is supposed to guide you in using [[ThinkWiki]]. It offers you strategies on how to find information here in case you need help about a specific topic or just want to know something about your ThinkPad or ThinkPads in general.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Generic starting points==&lt;br /&gt;
There are five generic starting points that can help you whatever your mission might be:&lt;br /&gt;
*You can start browsing on the [[ThinkWiki|ThinkWiki start page]]. We will try to keep all ThinkWiki pages accessable in a logical structure that branches out from there.&lt;br /&gt;
*You can always use the Search field on the left, enter some word designating what you are looking for, press the search button and hope that one of the search results will be helpful.&lt;br /&gt;
*From our [[:Category:Models|ThinkPad models overview]] you can pick your particular model page to get a list with all articles concerning that model.&lt;br /&gt;
*And on the [[:Category:Distributions|distributions]] page you can choose your distribution and find all pages containing  information related to that distro.&lt;br /&gt;
*You can try browsing the [[:Category:ThinkWiki|Categories]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Finding help for a specific problem==&lt;br /&gt;
ThinkWiki most likely doesn't provide a single page covering exactly your problem. It rather offers you generic starting points where you can start your hunt for information that may give you clues to a solution. The most typical starting points for your solution hunt are:&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Known Problems]] page list pages covering specific problems people have run into with partial or complete solutions to them.&lt;br /&gt;
*If you look for information on how to install a specific distro on a specific model, look at the [[Installation]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
*In case you have problems installing or configuring a special driver, look at the [[HOWTOs - Driver Installation|Driver installation HOWTO listing]].&lt;br /&gt;
*In case you need help or information about the preloaded system, backing it up or recovering it, look at the [[How to recover the preloaded OS|Preload Recovery page]].&lt;br /&gt;
*If you run into Power Management related problems, the [[How to make use of Power Management features|Power Management HOWTO]] should help.&lt;br /&gt;
There are several more HOWTO pages accessible from the [[ThinkWiki|ThinkWiki main page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Finding information about a specific model==&lt;br /&gt;
There are two places to start for that:&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[:Category:Models|ThinkPad models overview]] page. It contains a list of all models known to the editors of ThinkWiki, each of them containing general information about that model as well as a list of all articles with information related to it. I.e. if you want to know about the ThinkPad X22, just click on the [[:Category:X22|X22]] page and you'll find all we know about it.&lt;br /&gt;
*The second place to look at is the [[Hardware Specifications]] page. Here you will find a list of model and type numbers, ordered by model. Just click on a type number and you'll find detailed specifications of exactly that type. In case your exact model-type number isn't there, look at one of the IBM provided PDF documents linked from that page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Finding information about ThinkPads in general==&lt;br /&gt;
If you are planning to buy a notebook and want to start with an overall impression of ThinkPads, try the following pages:&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[ThinkPad History]] gives a historic overview about the appearance of ThinkPads in chronological order, accompanied with some information about their specialties and features.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Thinkpad Technologies]] page lists several of the technologies found in various ThinkPads. Each single Technology page in turn holds a list of ThinkPads this featuring this technology.&lt;br /&gt;
*Look at the [[Components]] or [[:Category:Components|Components Category]] pages to find out about hardware used  in ThinkPad computers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Finding information about your specific distribution==&lt;br /&gt;
As said above, the [[:Category:Distributions|distributions]] page holds a list of distributions you can find information about on ThinkWiki. Each of the single distribution pages listed there in turn contain a list of all articles with relevant information for that distribution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==If you don't find what you are looking for==&lt;br /&gt;
Well, go figure - and let us know your findings here. ;-) Ok, more seriously, the [[Links]], [[Mailinglists]] and [[IRC]] pages list other sources of useful information. Also pay attention to the &amp;quot;External Sources&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Related Links&amp;quot; sections found on almost every page. They usually contain a list of useful links to pages outside ThinkWiki. And of course, [http://www.google.org Google] is always your friend.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Good luck.&lt;br /&gt;
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