Problems with fglrx

2006-01-03T14:06:38Z

12.168.67.36: /* Gentoo */

This page discusses issues with the ATI proprietary [[fglrx]] display driver.

== Known Troubles and Solutions ==

=== Kernel-specific troubles ===

Using the current ATI driver (8.20.8) with the current release candidate 2.6.15-rc5 needs a [http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113429835515001&w=2 patch]. (info stolen from the table below, but put here for better visibility)

=== No hardware acceleration ===
If the ATI driver works only without the hardware acceleration, take into consideration that {{path|fglrx_dri.so}} was linked against libstdc++.so.5 which may not be present if your system uses gcc-3.4.

To fix this, compile gcc-3.3.5 and copy <tt>libstdc++.so.5*</tt> to {{path|/usr/lib}} and update the dynamic linker cache via {{cmdroot|ldconfig}}.

Another possible cause for broken hardware acceleration (2D and 3D) is the radeonfb framebuffer: Switching to vesafb or vesafb-tng is reported to solve the problem on some systems. Also it has proven helpful to not perform {{cmdroot|modprobe fglrx}} after boot but to have the module loaded via {{path|/etc/modules.autoload/kernel2.x}} at boottime instead.

=== Softlink hell ===

The [[fglrx]] installer replaces the standard X.org OpenGL implementation (Mesa) with its own files, potentially causing collisions with the distribution's file and package management. It is best to install the driver via a package built for your distribution, which will typically include the necessary kludges to make things work. See the [[fglrx]] page for pointers.

====Discussion====

If you install the driver and type "fglrxinfo" which shows you are still using the mesa indirect software GL renderer, you likely have some misplaced softlinks. I find this *really* frustrating, and do not know why it occasionally occurs -> I think it has to do with an apt-get upgrade that sometimes replaces these links. Anyway, go to

: cd /usr/X11R6/lib

and list your GL libraries and links

: ls -la *GL*

You should see something like:

: libGL.so -> libGL.so.1.2

and
: libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.2

If you see a link to a mesa library (something like ->libGL.mesa.1.2), then that's your problem! Restore the softlink with a command similar to:
: ln -s <actual file> <softlink name>

e.g.
: ln -s libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1

For some reason, this link might "break" later, giving you the software rendering once more. I renamed the mesa library to mesa.bkup, and the system still found it and linked to it despite the name change. If you have to do this a lot, you could write a restoreGL script...

=====Gentoo=====
I did the above steps with no luck but it's working now so read on:

Because
: ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo
showed that my system still uses the xorg-x11 mesa think and the above hint didn't work as expected I looked at this:
: libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x400a8000)
Afterwards I did:
: cd /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/
: mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2_backup
: ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2
After another restart of X "fglrxinfo" showed that it's using the right libs now.

=====Alternative for Gentoo=====
Gentoo has built in tools for managing the OpenGL symlinks. They seem to be replacing the old tool with a new one, so one of the following should work for you:

: # opengl-update ati
: # eselect opengl set ati

Eselect is new, and still ~x86(as of the end of 2005), so you may not have it yet. opengl-update is the old tried-and-true method for managing the symlinks. If opengl-update doesn't fix it for you, you should probably tell [http://bugs.gentoo.org Gentoo Bugzilla](assuming they don't know yet)

=== Troubles using software suspend ===
When the computer resumes from suspend, X only displays a garbled image and the computer is frozen.
The problem is acknowledged in ATI's release notes and in knowledge base entry [https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBResult.asp?searchFor=Search+Words&search.x=0&search.y=0&searchOption=id&questionID=737-218+&task=knowledge&searchTime=-1&productID=&folderID=-1&resultLimit=50 737-218]. Driver version 8.19.10 has "initial support for Suspend and Resume" but is working very nicely for most people (verified on T43, T43p and T42) without vbetool.

If you are using an older version of fglrx, using [http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mjg59/vbetool/ vbetool] to save/restore the video card state before/after suspend worked for some people. If you use [[Software Suspend 2|Software Suspend 2 (suspend2)]] scripts, you can simply uncomment <tt>EnableVbetool yes</tt> in {{path|/etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf}}. Be aware though that it breaks suspend/resume for drivers beginning with version 8.19.10, so remember to disable it again when upgrading.

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" border="1"
|+ tested with the following configurations
!model!!distro||kernel!!fglrx!!PM!!success!!comments
|-
|{{T42}}||SUSE 9.3||2.6.11||8.14.13||swsusp||yes||
|-
|{{T41p}}||???||2.6.14||8.19.10||suspend2 2.2-rc9||yes||needs a small [http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2005-November/030381.html patch]
|-
|{{T42p}}||Debian||2.6.10||Debian packaged||suspend2||yes||
|-
|{{T43}}||Debian sid||2.6.14.2||8.19.10||swsusp||yes||works perfectly with 8.19.10 (but not earlier versions!)
|-
|{{T43}}||Debian etch||2.6.14.2||8.19.10||swsusp||yes||works perfectly with 8.19.10 and without vbetool
|-
|{{T43}}||Ubuntu Breezy||2.6.12-10||8.19.10||swsusp||yes||Perfect. (Finally.)
|-
|{{T43}}||FC4||2.6.14.1||8.19.10||suspend2 2.2-rc9||yes||needs a small [http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2005-November/030381.html patch], requires DRI disabled in {{path|xorg.conf}} (hence no 3D acceleration)
|-
|{{T43}}||FC4||2.6.14.2||8.19.10||suspend2 2.2-rc11||yes||requires DRI disabled in {{path|xorg.conf}} (hence no 3D acceleration)
|-
|{{T43}}||FC4||2.6.14.3||8.19.10||suspend2 2.2-rc13||no||DRI enabled
|-
|{{T43}}||FC4||2.6.14.3||8.20.8||suspend2 2.2-rc13||no||DRI enabled
|-
|{{R50p}}||???||???||8.19.10||swsusp||yes||
|-
|{{T43p}}||Debian sid||2.6.14||8.19.10||Suspend to RAM||yes||without vbetool or UseDummyXServer, those two ''break'' the resume process here, with DRI enabled
|-
|{{T43p}}||Debian sid||2.6.14.3||8.20.8||Suspend to RAM||yes||without vbetool or UseDummyXServer, with DRI enabled
|-
|{{R52}}||Debian sid||2.6.15-rc5||8.20.8||swsup||yes||both vbetool and UseDummyXServer disabled, DRI enabled, needs [http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113429835515001&w=2 patch]
|}

=== Troubles with large RAM ===
Version 8.14.13 (and probably earlier versions) of the driver does not seem to be able to cope with large amounts of RAM: with 512 MB it works, with 1.5 GB it crashes the machine as soon as X is started. The problem is present only if the <tt>fglrx</tt> kernel module is loaded, but independently of whether {{kernelconf|CONFIG_HIGHMEM||||||}} is enabled. A workaround is to limit RAM by adding the {{bootparm|mem|864m}} kernel parameter.

Version 8.16.20 fixes the problem.

===Display switching ===
The switching between internal and external display doesn't work, because the driver blocks messing around with the chipset via ACPI. If you want to use this feature (i.e. during presentations), you should use the VESA server instead (experienced with a R52, Kernel 2.6.11, xorg 6.8.2, fglrx 8.16.20).

===Composite Support===
ATI has not officially supported composite windowing (alpha channel) enabling hardware acclerated translucent windows (primarily for 'eye candy.') Enabling Composite in KDE and the fglrx driver results in a very pretty desktop but unacceptably slow performance on a T43p with ATI's FireGL T2. It is still unusable in its current state (as of driver 8.19.10).

ATI promises support in the future when composite is officially supported by Xorg. Discussion of current status of drivers can be found in the Rage3d forums' (rage3d.com/board) Linux area. Rumor has it that the Microsoft Vista will support composite, so hopefully we will see it before then...

== Patches ==
The following patches might be needed for certain versions of fglrx.

===fglrx 8.20.8===

* [http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113429835515001&w=2 for kernel 2.6.15]

===fglrx (unspecified old version)===
* [http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/22/183 for kernel >= 2.6.13 ] Missing verify_area bug

===fglrx 8.8.25 ===
* [http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33798874 for kernels >= 2.6.10]
* [http://www.gehirn.org.uk/wiki/images/8.8.25-kernel-2.6.11+.patch For kernels >= 2.6.11-rc1]

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